[uchihaitachi]

Spending more on a new DAP because you have already spent a lot on headphones? I can't agree with that advice. K10s are very efficient and easy to drive. As long as a source is gapless with low noise floor and good channel balance I think you would find it very hard to tell the difference between it and a more expensive one when driving IEMs.

You can't say that on head fi!! (Although I agree with you 200%)

 

[Watagump]

I spent a lot of time at CanJam comparing a Chord Hugo/AK player with an iPhone. WithyK10's. No difference that I could tell. YMMV.

That's a pretty bold statement, all I ever heard was how amazing the Hugo is. There is also plenty that feel once you hit a certain level, it all sounds the same, as is good. As I posted before, I heard a combo at The Show in May, that was nothing but a phone playing a song through the K10's, UNREAL sound.

 

[krismusic]

That's a pretty bold statement, all I ever heard was how amazing the Hugo is. There is also plenty that feel once you hit a certain level, it all sounds the same, as is good.

I can only tell you what I heard Wata. I was actually shocked and quite disillusioned TBH.
Like you I had read the eulogies.

 

[Watagump]

I can only tell you what I heard Wata. I was actually shocked and quite disillusioned TBH.
Like you I had read the eulogies.

Well the goal is, to sell stuff, look at Beats.

 

[krismusic]

Well the goal is, to sell stuff, look at Beats.

Two factors that may be involved.
Mainstream electronics have advanced to a level that was once the preserve of the enthusiast.
There is a tendency to over complicate the equipment in an attempt to make gear a hobby. Rather than listening to music.
There is the third possibility. That my ears are shot!
I was with two much younger friends who heard the same thing though...

 

[Watagump]

Two factors that may be involved.
Mainstream electronics have advanced to a level that was once the preserve of the enthusiast.
There is a tendency to over complicate the equipment in an attempt to make gear a hobby. Rather than listening to music.
There is the third possibility. That my ears are shot!
I was with two much younger friends who heard the same thing though...

I did edit my first post you quoted, so there is a part I agree/understand. When it comes to mobile audio, headphones first for gear, but the very first thing is making sure your music isn't crap.

 

[krismusic]

I did edit my first post you quoted, so there is a part I agree/understand. When it comes to mobile audio, headphones first for gear, but the very first thing is making sure your music isn't crap.

We were comparing a lossless track on the AK with Spotify Premium. Streaming. Supposedly 320kbps.

 

[LFC_SL]

Spotify = loss of fidelity
Bluetooth = loss of fidelity

You are enjoying these services for convenience, not ultimate pursuit of quality. Agree stick to the phone. The AK is a waste in your situation also.

 

[krismusic]

Spotify = loss of fidelity
Bluetooth = loss of fidelity

You are enjoying these services for convenience, not ultimate pursuit of quality. Agree stick to the phone. The AK is a waste in your situation also.

I've not heard Bluetooth but read nothing good about it SQ wise. I can't hear a difference between Spotify on my iPhone and lossless on an iPod.
What shocked me is that even the most esoteric rigs that I have heard did not sound significantly better than my K10's and iPhone.
I have never heard any headphone rig that "blew me away".
Speaker based systems yes.
This leads me to conclude that there are limitations to what you will hear regardless of money and gear.

 

[Watagump]

We were comparing a lossless track on the AK with Spotify Premium. Streaming. Supposedly 320kbps.

The guy that had me listen to his phone was using streaming as far as I understood. I didn't really ask, but he asked if I had Tidal, so I assumed that's what he was using. I still don't know what phone it was, don't remember the song, nothing, all I remember was I was floored by what I heard out of a no frills setup and the K10.

 

[krismusic]

The guy that had me listen to his phone was using streaming as far as I understood. I didn't really ask, but he asked if I had Tidal, so I assumed that's what he was using. I still don't know what phone it was, don't remember the song, nothing, all I remember was I was floored by what I heard out of a no frills setup and the K10.

It'll do me! Goodnight from UK. Off to bed.

 

[IwishIcanFLighT]

Hi there! First post on this thread, but I've been reading it since around page 800. Thanks for all the jokes during summer Wata!

 
I finally received the Savant today via Aid2Hearing, and they are amazing!
 
I tried to listen to some Savant, with the Savant. Loved it

 
 
 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[fiascogarcia]

Two factors that may be involved.
Mainstream electronics have advanced to a level that was once the preserve of the enthusiast.
There is a tendency to over complicate the equipment in an attempt to make gear a hobby. Rather than listening to music.
There is the third possibility. That my ears are shot!
I was with two much younger friends who heard the same thing though...

I agree that the K10 sounds great with just a phone or DAP.  Hugo is great if you also listened to full size, higher impedence headphones.  And since I have the setup for that, I also use it for the K10's, with fantastic results!

 

[Watagump]

  Hi there! First post on this thread, but I've been reading it since around page 800. Thanks for all the jokes during summer Wata!

 
I finally received the Savant today via Aid2Hearing, and they are amazing!
 
I tried to listen to some Savant, with the Savant. Loved it

 
 
 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Glad you enjoyed the jokes, too bad they are no more. Mods dont have a sense of humor, so I wont be doing them any more, which will make some happy. Enjoy the Savants, they are nice.

 

[vhsownsbeta]

Glad you enjoyed the jokes, too bad they are no more. Mods dont have a sense of humor, so I wont be doing them any more, which will make some happy. Enjoy the Savants, they are nice.

Your jokes were moderated?