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Please good sirs... The flames... Pm
Please good sirs... The flames... Pm
Hmm, does this mean we will all be able to buy a pair of Sentinel's in the near future for a deep deep discount on the Savant price
I've only heard the Savant and the Noble 6, and the Savant kicked the six's butt for a lot less money. It was clear and balanced with nothing overblown. It was the best sounding iem at CanJam London that I heard, and I listened to the Angie and Layla, and the Aurisonics range.
I could give a flying spaghetti monster about how many drivers are in it. The tuning is gorgeous. Would I like to see better shells, you bet I would, and hopefully Noble takes that into account. After hearing the Savant, it shot to the top of my IEM wishlist, and is in the top five for my Head-Fi products list. Planar magnetic headphones and a better high definition DAP are at the top of my list.
Keep rocking, Noble. You make awesome stuff. I still need to try your Kaiser. I didn't want to frighten away my wallet completely at CanJam London.
I know i am not the first person to crack. It's so obvious. But why must you point out as if I'm so happy to crack it? I'm not. Just showing my opinion here. Unless again, that's banned.
(1) None of this would have even happened if from Day 1 it's announced that it's a two driver instead of selling it like it's containing White House Secrets, but hey, your product, you sell it as you see fit. And even if Barack Obama claims the Savant is the best thing on planet earth, it's his opinion which doesn't affect me. (3) So congrats on having loyal supporters of the product, which every brand also has.
(4) I don't seriously know why everyone is so worked up about this. it's a simple opinion and 2 photos. Like everyone says here, each has their own preference.
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(1) Ohhh so you are here to maintain some sense of "balance," "teach Noble a lesson," here to keep companies "in line," the "sentinel against the oprresive evil IEM companies" "Reveal your components or I'll do it for you"
(2) so your uptight about the driver count, if that is the case, why post the make and model numbers of the drivers and the resistor value as well?
(3) Yes every company has fans, and I think your post is self evident of that.
(4) Not everyone is worked up about this, but I'm sure our competitors are thrilled to now know what the internals of the Savant are. You may not care about the ramifications of your post, but I know 12 families that will care.
FYI, Noble is not a parts supply house. You can get parts at Digikey, or Mousier.
Noble designs, builds, assembles, creates custom in ear monitors and universal monitors and we carry all the costs associated with doing that. We do the best we can, with what we have. I started building CIEMs in a bathroom, fortunatley those days are behind me. Brannan was still in college when Noble began, pulling 16hrs of classes and I do believe he finished his degree in 3 years rather than 4.
My team has battled more wars than could be concieved. The IEM lab has been through an earthquake and flooded out 3 times. But yet we still meet our dead lines, The CIEM lab, their stories are even at a greater scale, but unfortunatley those stories will probably never be known. Regardless, short of water boarding, they have been through a lot.
And we will still keep going.... and if we do have fans, they were earned, one by one.
As for the shell quality going "down hill"
The shell is the same shell we have been using sense we opened approximatley two years.... so the quality of that shell hasn't deterioted etc etc. That being said, if a company isn't moving forward it is dyeing..... and we realize that. Rome wasn't built in a day, we will keep hoaning our craft, and keep improveng.where we can when we can.
As for a "expressing an opinion in a rational manner." I'm all for that, but slander I do not appreciate. Never have I once stated that the Savant sounds like a 4 driver or a 9 driver. I don't even know of a commercially availble 9 driver on the market today, or that has ever been on the market.
So it would be like saying..... "The spice on my burger reminds me of the flavor of moon dust."
Beyond that, there is a great graph of the Savant and the K10 on head fi, and if you scrutinize it, you will see that the Savant is very similar...... so would this mean is sounds like a 10 driver? I don't know but there is no logic in saying a particular sound quality sounds like "X" number of drivers.
As for the pink gold screws being used, and this some how was supposed to be "suggestive of 5 drivers." that is just more slanderous guess work.. The fact of the matter is, I had about 3K USD worth of pink gold screws (over stocked) and so I decided to use them on the Savant. I also added my signature to the side of the shell in order to distinguish a Savant driver from the N5. It also just so happened that I felt that the Savant was "special" and deserved to be dressed in gold. The screw had zero relationship with the driver count and I have never contended that it did. If folks guessed that it did, that was done on their own accord.
Ok, 5 AM now, Brannan called me at 2 Am in a panic.
I'm off to bed, (friggin roosters are awake now, 4,000 chickens all excited)
I have a 10hr drive in front of me, I got go pick up my boys. Why they are 10hrs away from me is another story, for another time.... and yes, the story is Noble related.
Folks, I'm doing my life's work here, and I'm fortunate to have a stellar team and I say this with humility..... I am fortunate to have fans, you folks are appreciated, and when I learn of people owning 6 sets of a product that I developed and possibly even made with my hands.... I'm at a loss for words
Having owned both, I don't agree that Savant kicks N6's butt. N6 has similar detail, similar midrange warmth, superior sub-bass extension, and definitely more mid bass. Savant is cleaner with a more spacious presentation. The bass is nice and punchy too. Both are very good IEMs. I prefer the Savant for vocals and minimalistic type recordings, but the N6 is awesome for electronic, hip hop and high octane rock music. It's just a matter of preference really.
(1) Ohhh so you are here to maintain some sense of "balance," "teach Noble a lesson," here to keep companies "in line," the "sentinel against the oprresive evil IEM companies" "Reveal your components or I'll do it for you"
(2) so your uptight about the driver count, if that is the case, why post the make and model numbers of the drivers and the resistor value as well?
(3) Yes every company has fans, and I think your post is self evident of that.
(4) Not everyone is worked up about this, but I'm sure our competitors are thrilled to now know what the internals of the Savant are. You may not care about the ramifications of your post, but I know 12 families that will care.
FYI, Noble is not a parts supply house. You can get parts at Digikey, or Mousier.
Noble designs, builds, assembles, creates custom in ear monitors and universal monitors and we carry all the costs associated with doing that. We do the best we can, with what we have. I started building CIEMs in a bathroom, fortunatley those days are behind me. Brannan was still in college when Noble began, pulling 16hrs of classes and I do believe he finished his degree in 3 years rather than 4.
My team has battled more wars than could be concieved. The IEM lab has been through an earthquake and flooded out 3 times. But yet we still meet our dead lines, The CIEM lab, their stories are even at a greater scale, but unfortunatley those stories will probably never be known. Regardless, short of water boarding, they have been through a lot.
And we will still keep going.... and if we do have fans, they were earned, one by one.
As for the shell quality going "down hill"
The shell is the same shell we have been using sense we opened approximatley two years.... so the quality of that shell hasn't deterioted etc etc. That being said, if a company isn't moving forward it is dyeing..... and we realize that. Rome wasn't built in a day, we will keep hoaning our craft, and keep improveng.where we can when we can.
As for a "expressing an opinion in a rational manner." I'm all for that, but slander I do not appreciate. Never have I once stated that the Savant sounds like a 4 driver or a 9 driver. I don't even know of a commercially availble 9 driver on the market today, or that has ever been on the market.
So it would be like saying..... "The spice on my burger reminds me of the flavor of moon dust."
Beyond that, there is a great graph of the Savant and the K10 on head fi, and if you scrutinize it, you will see that the Savant is very similar...... so would this mean is sounds like a 10 driver? I don't know but there is no logic in saying a particular sound quality sounds like "X" number of drivers.
As for the pink gold screws being used, and this some how was supposed to be "suggestive of 5 drivers." that is just more slanderous guess work.. The fact of the matter is, I had about 3K USD worth of pink gold screws (over stocked) and so I decided to use them on the Savant. I also added my signature to the side of the shell in order to distinguish a Savant driver from the N5. It also just so happened that I felt that the Savant was "special" and deserved to be dressed in gold. The screw had zero relationship with the driver count and I have never contended that it did. If folks guessed that it did, that was done on their own accord.
Ok, 5 AM now, Brannan called me at 2 Am in a panic.
I'm off to bed, (friggin roosters are awake now, 4,000 chickens all excited)
I have a 10hr drive in front of me, I got go pick up my boys. Why they are 10hrs away from me is another story, for another time.... and yes, the story is Noble related.
Folks, I'm doing my life's work here, and I'm fortunate to have a stellar team and I say this with humility..... I am fortunate to have fans, you folks are appreciated, and when I learn of people owning 6 sets of a product that I developed and possibly even made with my hands.... I'm at a loss for words