kstuart
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Loki or Modi to pair with this?
Loki is DSD files only, Modi is all other files.
Loki or Modi to pair with this?
Wait, hold on a sec. You have Magni. Why did you suddenly do a bizarre little tube amp? Did you hit your head?
Why do people climb Everest? Why do they spend $25,000 customizing a $2500 car? Why do people take salsa dancing lessons? Does there have to be a reason for everything? Bottom line, we were playing around with these little tubes, put together something for fun, and thought it sounded good. When we figured we could do a little tube hybrid for a little more than Magni, we figured you might think it was pretty cool, too.
But…a $119 tube hybrid amp? Now we know you’re cutting corners!
No, not really. Even at $119, we have a custom chassis, a real high-voltage supply, and a solid Class AB discrete output stage. The tubes we use are NOS JAN (military spec) Raytheon 6088s.
So you probably cheaped out and left the protection off this amp, or something stupid like that, right?
No. Vali has a relay mute for delayed startup and fast shut-down. You can leave your headphones plugged in all the time.
So what's the catch?
Compared to Magni? Several. One, Vali's ultimate power output is lower, so it's less suitable to orthodynamics and other hard-to-drive headphones. Two, many tubes, including the ones in Vali, are microphonic. When you plug in headphones on Vali, you'll hear a little "tiiinnnnggg...." noise that takes quite a while to go away. If you rap the chassis, it will do the same thing. If you work on, say, a paint shaker table, Vali's not going to be the best amp for you. Three, tubes also have a lifespan, though Vali's tubes are expected to last 10,000-20,000 hours--which is 7-14 years of listening 4 hours a day, every day.
What happens when the tubes croak?
You'd send it back to us and we'll replace them for $20. If they ever do go bad, that is. We're betting they won't.
I heard that ultimate accuracy is the result of exemplary measurements, including vanishingly low THD, low noise, and low output impedance, so I don’t know how this thing can sound very good.
A: Are you going to let others think for you, or are you going to listen for yourself?
But it's less powerful and noisier than Magni!
A: Dude, it's a $119 tube amp. So, well, yes.
But I don't know if I'll like tube sound.
A: Dude, it's a $119 tube amp.
I hear a tube amp isn't accurate, it’s euphonic and fun?
A: $119. Tube. Amp.
Ok, change the subject. Can this thing drive orthos?
Depends on your listening preference, and which orthos. With half the power of Magni, it’s not going to drive low-sensitivity orthos to ear-bleeding levels. However, it does well with the HiFiMan HE-400, the Mad Dogs and Alpha Dogs, and even the LCD-X, XC, and 2, and HE-500.
What about IEMs?
Man, you want everything, don’t you? The noise floor is higher on Vali than Magni. We wouldn’t use it with most IEMs, but it could work with some of them, depending on your hiss tolerance.
What the hell is a Vali?
In Norse mythology, Vali is the son of Odin and the giantess Rindr. There’s this amazing resource called Wikipedia. You may have heard of it.
I want a combined DAC/amp! Why didn’t you put a DAC in here?
We did. It’s just in a different chassis and costs another $99. It’s called “Modi.” Stack the two and tell yourself it’s a combined tube hybrid DAC/Amp for $218.
Can I plug in some uber-special, gold-plated, cryo-treated, 85-lb 2000VA wall wart and have even better performance?
Unless you know what you’re doing, we don’t recommend that. Vali uses an AC wall wart. Most are DC. DC won’t work with Vali.
Hey, these tubes don’t really light up! You threw some LEDs in there to make it look like they’re glowing. What’s up with that?
Submini tubes running 1.25V heaters don’t really glow, sorry. And yes, there are LEDs in there. But we didn’t just “throw them in.” They bias the output stage. Nifty, huh?
I received my shipped notification last night, so I think you may be in the second batch then.
I received my shipped notification last night, so I think you may be in the second batch then.
I ordered mine at 9:00am PST yesterday. I received a shipping notice today at 11:20am PST. But I guess they haven't been picked up by FedEx yet since FedEx has no record of the tracking number.
Mine should arrive tomorrow, but I have to leave town before FedEx generally delivers. AARGH! I guess I will have to wait until after the weekend to get it.
I'm trying very hard not to buy one. Very. Hard.
Any suggestions on how I can get the most sound out of the Vali when connected to the Titanium HD Soundcard?