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Originally Posted by K3cT /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If Fang can fix the treble glare and the one-note bass response with the LE version, that would be great. I would also desire for more uniformity across the cans so I will not have a fellow Head-Fier asking me "what do you mean that the HE-5 is sibilant?!".
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My HE-5s were quite "bright" until after the 250-300 hour mark, now they are quite smooth, no "treble glare" at all now, if that is what you meant. The highs are more detailed, and smoother, than my HD600s, and much smoother than from my 325is.
As far as "one note bass response", you must have had a defective pair. These are not "basshead" headphones, but they do have incredible low frequency extension when called upon, with excellent timbre and tonal variation. They remind me of a large (15-18") subwoofer that has good speed and great musicality, but is tuned not to color or otherwise interfere the rest of the frequency spectrum, while moving quite a bit of air. Some like their low-end more "present" in the overall sound spectrum, but to me that is distracting.
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Originally Posted by MikePio /img/forum/go_quote.gif
there will always be newer and supposedly "better" cans, but I wouldn't sweat it over the LE's, they are just a refinement over the HE-5's, same specs, same driver etc... I would say this release is for those who initially found the HE-5's to sharp, sibilant and lacking lower extension, one dimensional bass as some would say... Though for me, I have found no such issues with my pair, and I absolutely love the sound of my HE-5's and wouldn't want anything changed
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Originally Posted by apatN /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The HE-5 is simply a great pair of phones.
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Originally Posted by vcoheda /img/forum/go_quote.gif
very curious what improvements were made.
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If any...
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Originally Posted by thehadi /img/forum/go_quote.gif
is it really good choise udac-ef5-he5?
do i satisfied? it'll be my first personal rig
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Yes, I think so
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Originally Posted by foaming at the ears /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I dont have much experience with soundstage and its definition, ie I dont fully understand the difference between soundstage and headstage.
The dimensionality that you speak of, however, I may be familiar with. Of the modest HPs I own, the HE-5 is excellent at telling you where on a 2d vertical plane a sound is coming from.
I guess I was thinking of soundstage in the sense of how the HE-5 makes you feel like you're in an auditorium, which I dont think it does. But you put it well with "dimensionality"...
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Originally Posted by Beagle /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Oh, the HE-5 does "have" a big soundstage. It's different but it's as big as any.
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The soundstage to my ears is quite wide, but not as deep as it could be. I don't know how this would relate to "dimensionality", or "headstage", but I think that it does.
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Originally Posted by gbacic /img/forum/go_quote.gif
So are they going to discontinue the HE-5?
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My guess is yes; they need to release a "plastic" version to make a decent profit in its place, hence the LE.
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Originally Posted by prone2phone /img/forum/go_quote.gif
60khz means one could hear 4 clear cymbals of 15khz at a time, i think so
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Good one, I hope!
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Originally Posted by john57 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
"HE-5LE will be plastic casing with beautiful black paint" at $649
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Does anyone remember that the HE-5 was supposed to sell for $999 originally? I think that the new LE version will be less picky about amplification, and will probably lead to the original wooden HE-5s being highly-sought after as the true gem, dare I say even a collector's item once it is discontinued. I predict that the HE-5s will even be hailed as the superior headphones if they are sourced and amped properly, a big "if". The LE version will be their "made for the masses" plastic counterpart, a very fine set of headphones that makes a lot more $ for HiFiMAN as they have found some savings in their manufacturing costs, primarily by going to molded plastic instead of the beautiful collector's quality hand-turned wood. I will not be surprised if we find more cost-cutting refinements that do not affect SQ on the LE version when it is released, just as I will not be surprised if the original HE-5s price goes up to where it should have been all along if they are not discontinued.
Of course I could be completely wrong about this, as I am only guessing.
But you heard it here first
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