[blueangel2323]

  How about JVC spiral dot tips?
Had a FX650 laying around and tried the (M) tips on the SD2. Magic!!!
 

By the way, what are those IEMs on the right?
 

I don't think the difference in SQ between tips is so much due to the tip itself as it is how well a particular tip fits one's ear. Tonally, there is a huge difference with even the slightest leakage due to a lack of a "perfect" seal. Of course depth of insertion does make some difference, but as I only am able to use a shallow seal without actually inserting the tip into my ear canal, this is not an issue for me.

Bottom line...seal is everything.

Seal is paramount, but I wouldn't say it's everything. You can't get good sound without a good seal... but even if you have a good seal the sound can be "off" with certain tips. For example, tips with wider bores will act like a horn and increase unevenness treble.

 

[skalkman]

The ortofon tips have always worked for me. And with the BTG Midnight cable my SD-2's just got nicer. 
 

 

[Kerouac]

@HiFlight ''Bottom line...seal is everything.''
Yep, this can make a big difference in SQ for sure!
 
@blueangel2323 ''By the way, what are those IEMs on the right?''
Those are 1964 Ears V6 Stage, universal fit. Received them last week...
More bass than the SD2, and incredible soundstage / instrument separation because of the triple bore. Can you imagine they put 6 drivers in that little shell?

 

[MuZo2]

  @HiFlight ''Bottom line...seal is everything.''
Yep, this can make a big difference in SQ for sure!
 

Seal is not so important. You need to get the iem to reference plane, that more important than seal.
http://rinchoi.blogspot.de/2010/05/how-deep-do-you-insert-you-er4.html

 

[MuZo2]

 Can you imagine they put 6 drivers in that little shell?

They are really small shell even compared to sd2.

 

[blueangel2323]

  Seal is not so important. You need to get the iem to reference plane, that more important than seal.
http://rinchoi.blogspot.de/2010/05/how-deep-do-you-insert-you-er4.html

 
Deep insertion is not possible with my ears, so with universal IEMs I will never get anywhere close to the "reference plane." Even with silicone tips that are a bit longer/pointier I cannot get them to seal. There is a very dramatic bend very shallow in my canal and the tips cannot go past it.

 

[HiFlight]

Deep insertion is not possible with my ears, so with universal IEMs I will never get anywhere close to the "reference plane." Even with silicone tips that are a bit longer/pointier I cannot get them to seal. There is a very dramatic bend very shallow in my canal and the tips cannot go past it.

Likewise! That is exactly why I use the largest, shallowest silicon I can find to get a good seal without the need to enter my ear canal.

 

[Kerouac]

  The ortofon tips have always worked for me. And with the BTG Midnight cable my SD-2's just got nicer. 
 

Hi skalkman, nice picture!
 
Can you describe the upgrade in SQ that the BTG Midnight cable gives over the stock cable?
Found out on their website they're not that expensive, from $60 up: http://btg-audio.com/webstore.htm#!/Midnight-IEM-Cable/p/11546451/category=2609075
 
Maybe (depends on the delivered difference in SQ) I'm going to order one myself...
You have this one? http://btg-audio.com/webstore.htm#!/Midnight-CIEM-cable/p/28132561/category=2609073
 
 

 

[Kerouac]

 

 Can you imagine they put 6 drivers in that little shell?

They are really small shell even compared to sd2.

I guess the smaller the shell, the bigger the sound

Thanks for the rinchoi link!

 

[skalkman]

Hi skalkman, nice picture!


 


Can you describe the upgrade in SQ that the BTG Midnight cable gives over the stock cable?


Found out on their website they're not that expensive, from $60 up: http://btg-audio.com/webstore.htm#!/Midnight-IEM-Cable/p/11546451/category=2609075


 


Maybe (depends on the delivered difference in SQ) I'm going to order one myself...


You have this one? http://btg-audio.com/webstore.htm#!/Midnight-CIEM-cable/p/28132561/category=2609073


 


 

The Midnight gives improved bottom end, smother mids and added bass response. It fattens the sound while still keeping clarity. It does also smooth out some of the peakines some people have noticed.

I would call that an upgrade, your mileage may very.

 

[Kerouac]

Sounds very promising to me. I can also use an extra mini to mini interconnect, so BTG seems the way to go...
Thanks for this information!

 

[palermo]

BTG Midnight arrived, I'll keep it in play for a while.

 

[skalkman]

BTG Midnight arrived, I'll keep it in play for a while.

Let me know what you think of it. Hopefully it won't be another $100 down the drain.

 

[Kosmonavt]

Ordered the Ortofon tips directly from the manufacturer and they perform great compared to the complys.

 

[Mimouille]

So apparently the SD-4 are coming in November...wonder what they are tuned like.
 
http://www.thomann.de/fr/inear_stagediver_sd_4.htm