New Beyerdynamic T1 (2nd Generation)

[Packdemon]

   
I must confess it isn't my first language either, but I'll try to clear things out as much as I can. 
 
With purification and clean I mean making it more crystal clear and less harsh, rough, unpolished.
 
Maybe this will be helpful:
 

 
 
Referring to sponges may sound kind of silly at first, but when problems with proper description of what we hear arise, such simple examples can clarify them. You can imagine higher frequency responses as rough and smooth texture of sponge. Tonality is their shape, texture is their quality. With better cables I can hear highs of T1 as more polished with better finish, less grainy. At the same time tonality wasn't changed and peaks were still there, since Beyer is using in their stock cables if I remeber correctly the same copper compound as signal conductor.
 

 
Do you mean for example, that the 10000Hz frequency of one cable sounds better than the 10000Hz frequency of another? Or do you mean the transition between (higher) frequencies, but I'm sure that's done solely by the DAC. Or are you perhaps saying that noise playing while your (same example) 10000Hz audio note is playing, but something like that would just be quantization error caused by bit depth (which with 16 or 24 bit audio tracks should be so small that it's already not noticeable). It still very confusing. Are there any scientific measurements of this? Because I'm really good at understanding science, so that would really help.

 

[hellfire8888]

hmm all this argument of sponge aside...do you guys like the old t1 or new t1?
and is the changes in T1 second generation consider an upgrade or downgrade to you guys in terms of quality, sound, pacakaging, etc?

 

[Hansotek]

hmm all this argument of sponge aside...do you guys like the old t1 or new t1?
and is the changes in T1 second generation consider an upgrade or downgrade to you guys in terms of quality, sound, pacakaging, etc?

The gen2 is an upgrade. A big one. The gen1 is not that great, IMO.

 

[plakat]

hmm all this argument of sponge aside...do you guys like the old t1 or new t1?
and is the changes in T1 second generation consider an upgrade or downgrade to you guys in terms of quality, sound, pacakaging, etc?

I did not investigate in detail, but used the old T1 much more often than now the new one. Still I think the new tuning is more consumer-friendly, the new case more usable because it's much smaller and lighter, the removable cable is very welcome as well. Considering it's more than reasonable pricing it's a very good refresh overall I think.

 

[Youth]

  hmm all this argument of sponge aside...do you guys like the old t1 or new t1?
and is the changes in T1 second generation consider an upgrade or downgrade to you guys in terms of quality, sound, pacakaging, etc?

 
The new case is an upgrade. Cables are an upgrade. Headband and earpads are an upgrade. I actually think it's more comfortable than the old one, not that it was bad to begin with though. But that is it in my opinion. The added bass is nice but there's something about the midrange that doesn't sound right to my ears. And the treble is still needlessly elevated and sibilant but that doesn't suprise me anymore. As always with impressions take this with a grain of salt as we might have different preferences.  

 

[Packdemon]

   
The new case is an upgrade. Cables are an upgrade. Headband and earpads are an upgrade. I actually think it's more comfortable than the old one, not that it was bad to begin with though. But that is it in my opinion. The added bass is nice but there's something about the midrange that doesn't sound right to my ears. And the treble is still needlessly elevated and sibilant but that doesn't suprise me anymore. As always with impressions take this with a grain of salt as we might have different preferences.  

The case definitely is a lot lighter now (at the trade off of it not being as protective as aluminum) which makes it a lot more practical (which is more important in my opinion), but it's missing a basic handle (which the older one had, an overkill aluminium one at that). I think most headphone cases make that same big mistake. Not everyone likes carrying their case in a bag or claw-gripping it the whole time, so please Beyerdynamic, give all of your future (I am aware that you sell separate ones currently that do) headphone cases some handles. While I have certainly drawn out the handle issue to be very long, I am going to counter my self by saying that it's not that big of a deal on the new T1 case because there is at least this tap where you could clip on a shoulder strap if you so choose.

 

[joshuachew]

  Any news about a next gen TP5?

Sorry, but has this been answered?

 

[Packdemon]

Sorry, but has this been answered?

I think Astell & Kern has a 32 ohm version of the T1.2. Is that good enough?

 

[MacedonianHero]

The gen2 is an upgrade. A big one. The gen1 is not that great, IMO.

 
I agree with your first sentence...the last one though, I still think the original T1s are a good headphone, but have been eclipsed by the Gen 2s.

 

[Packdemon]

The Astell & Kern T1.2 is called the Astell&Kern AK T1p, more information can be found on their website: http://www.astellnkern.com

 

[ShinAyasaki]

Just finished re-terminating the stock cable. Looks really ugly because of a lot of heat shrinks have been used, but all for the durability lol.
 


Cable's length is about 2M now, and it's so much more comfortable.

 

[joshuachew]

I think Astell & Kern has a 32 ohm version of the T1.2. Is that good enough?

But it's still not closed and not so ideal for portable use.

 

[Packdemon]

But it's still not closed and not so ideal for portable use.

I agree, closed would be better for just about everyone, but for some (at least) semi-closed is good enough. In any case, what would you want to see in a Gen2 T5p?

 

[joshuachew]

  I agree, closed would be better for just about everyone, but for some (at least) semi-closed is good enough. In any case, what would you want to see in a Gen2 T5p?

 
Detachable cables, custom carrying case, and in terms of sound: more expansive bass, sweeter mids and lesser highs. 

 

[Packdemon]

   
Detachable cables, custom carrying case, and in terms of sound: more expansive bass, sweeter mids and lesser highs. 

It wouldn't be too hard to modify it to have all those things actually. Although, I'm not sure what you mean by expansive and sweeter; my English is not the best. Also, single sided or double sided cables?