tharkimaa
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Hey guys,
I was thinking that you could help me here. I am just entering the audiophile world, absent much money<lol>. i had my eyes fixed on the HD555 for over an year, and now that i read the review, i think i'll be going for the HD558. The problem is, i use a phone for music and onboard PC audio for gaming. So would i be needing an amp/DAC for the HD558's?
So, i had the phillips shp2500 for quite some time now, and i broke them at about Twelve (12) different places, not that i am abusive, but the build quality really doesnt hold. The ergonomics were pretty nice, but again the build quality spoiled my day.
Now, there is really something i have to mention here-
1.The volume- The SHP2500 @ 20$ really have good sound reproduction. Only if you can hear it. The thing is, i have onboard audio(rlc88+srs) and the volume the 2500's give me is terrible. It is really distracting and annoying while watching movies and listening to music. But during games, it really is ok, the sound has a certain crispness and tight bass. So now you know one of the things i prefer.
Continuing with the story, i got sennheiser's HD202's as a gift. They are awesome. Really. The bass is exactly spot on and the volume and density of the sound is really rich. The problem with them is that they are a bit uncomfy. I prefer more ear coverage. So, circumaural is the way to go.
Again i mention, My PC's onboard audio handles them fairly well, atleast i can hear stuff. During games, the volume becomes unbearable, and i have to lower it. But while vids and music, on the pc, i am somewhat left craving for more.
Now comes the major part. I have an Nokia E-72 now, which is a really awesome phone. It takes REAL advantage of everything the 202 has to offer. The bass is rich, the mids crisp and the highs orgasmic.
I listen to music mainly on the E72, and i prefer it that way. The 2500's fair better on the phone than on the pc, and i really dont care now, since the 202's are the primary. Seriously speaking, the E-72 can drive the 202's really well.
So here comes the criteria-
1. Music- Mozart-like classical + House/deep punchy bass.
2. Movies- the whole bunch.
3. Games- it really doesnt matter here, as long as the Music part is handled, this is a piece of cake.
And here is the confusion-
1. I have to Upgrade to more comfortable cans. circumaural is first priority.
2. I dont really have the money for buying an amp. So its gotta perform well (atleast loud enough) on both my PC and my phone.
The pc is avoidable, since i'll prolly be ditching it for a laptop or a PC with a soundcard. The phone is the real priority. I can tell you that it handles the 202's very gracefully.
3. The open/closed thing really doesnt bother me much.
The cans i shortlisted-
Siberia V2
Vs HD555
Vs AD700
Vs Grado Sr80i
Vs Megadolon
Vs HD558
I present you with the options i shortlisted. I know its a weird list, but it started with the megadolon, which is NOT for anything else except PC. So its out of the question unless there's a workaround.
The sr80's are not circumaural but have nearly the best sound.
The AD700's i have no idea about.
The Hd555 i am not sure if my PC or my future laptop can drive them well enough. Other wise, they are the best option, and i am probably gonna buy these.
The siberia V2, i am confident about, just that they really dont provide that level of comfort and "audiophile-ness".
Please, gods of audio, tell me, How important is it to get an amp?
What do the HD555/AD700's sound like, au naturele??
Pls feel free to correct and suggest me better stuff.
EDIT-
Just saw the HD558's, and read they are a major improvement over The 555's.
How abt 558 + a fiio e5?
Should be barely affordable?
The HD558'8 really improve over the AD700's and the HD555's. It has an improved soundstage , but looser bass.
Sr80i is actually quite in the price range. But, they arent circumaural and i have no idea how much power is needed to drive them properly.
I have basically included the siberia and the megadolon coz they are more "consumer" headsets, and not exotic. That means, i will have a better probability of being satisfied by them, as they target a MUCH wider audience. Plus (somewhat a minus too) the megadolon has the fancy maelstrom.
The AD700's are easier to drive?
The last thing is, i really dont have the money to buy a good DAC/amp, i'll be holding off on that purchase for abt an year. I can maybe fit an e5 into my budget, so would it be worth it? will it cause a difference that is noticeable? will it be enough?
Some more questions-
1. Can The HD558's can achieve full glory without amps? I know that this sounds kiddish, but is the signature same as the HD202's for the 558's without the amp?
The reason i ask is coz i had the phillips shp2500 before, and i dont know why but they sounded flat on both the PC and the phone. I mean the volume so hollow and low that appreciating music was impossible. But having the same impedanc,e the HD202 really impressed me, atleast on the phone. If I really have to-
2. I could squeeze an amp into my budget, what do you recommend below the 100$ range? As in i can barely afford a fiio e7. Is it good enough for the HD558?
Also, i might invest in a bigger better amp, if i save money right now. So if it makes a godly difference, should i buy the fiio e5/JDSlabs Cmoy and ditch the expensive e7?
I know its small and all, but seems that i might need it to extract the worth of the HD558's till the time i get a better dac+amp.
But i need to ensure that the sound will be radically altered or atleast better than stock.
Will it make a difference enough to justify its price?
Note- I know i sound incoherent, this is because all of the above is from different forums. I didnt get a satisfactory response. So i decided to step it up and come to you guys. Thanks for any help you can offer.
EDIT 24/6/11-
Pls Read my latest post, i have locked on the HD558, and there's another contender in the mix- THE M50s.
{sorry for sounding cheesy}
I was thinking that you could help me here. I am just entering the audiophile world, absent much money<lol>. i had my eyes fixed on the HD555 for over an year, and now that i read the review, i think i'll be going for the HD558. The problem is, i use a phone for music and onboard PC audio for gaming. So would i be needing an amp/DAC for the HD558's?
So, i had the phillips shp2500 for quite some time now, and i broke them at about Twelve (12) different places, not that i am abusive, but the build quality really doesnt hold. The ergonomics were pretty nice, but again the build quality spoiled my day.
Now, there is really something i have to mention here-
1.The volume- The SHP2500 @ 20$ really have good sound reproduction. Only if you can hear it. The thing is, i have onboard audio(rlc88+srs) and the volume the 2500's give me is terrible. It is really distracting and annoying while watching movies and listening to music. But during games, it really is ok, the sound has a certain crispness and tight bass. So now you know one of the things i prefer.
Continuing with the story, i got sennheiser's HD202's as a gift. They are awesome. Really. The bass is exactly spot on and the volume and density of the sound is really rich. The problem with them is that they are a bit uncomfy. I prefer more ear coverage. So, circumaural is the way to go.
Again i mention, My PC's onboard audio handles them fairly well, atleast i can hear stuff. During games, the volume becomes unbearable, and i have to lower it. But while vids and music, on the pc, i am somewhat left craving for more.
Now comes the major part. I have an Nokia E-72 now, which is a really awesome phone. It takes REAL advantage of everything the 202 has to offer. The bass is rich, the mids crisp and the highs orgasmic.
I listen to music mainly on the E72, and i prefer it that way. The 2500's fair better on the phone than on the pc, and i really dont care now, since the 202's are the primary. Seriously speaking, the E-72 can drive the 202's really well.
So here comes the criteria-
1. Music- Mozart-like classical + House/deep punchy bass.
2. Movies- the whole bunch.
3. Games- it really doesnt matter here, as long as the Music part is handled, this is a piece of cake.
And here is the confusion-
1. I have to Upgrade to more comfortable cans. circumaural is first priority.
2. I dont really have the money for buying an amp. So its gotta perform well (atleast loud enough) on both my PC and my phone.
The pc is avoidable, since i'll prolly be ditching it for a laptop or a PC with a soundcard. The phone is the real priority. I can tell you that it handles the 202's very gracefully.
3. The open/closed thing really doesnt bother me much.
The cans i shortlisted-
Siberia V2
Vs HD555
Vs AD700
Vs Grado Sr80i
Vs Megadolon
Vs HD558
I present you with the options i shortlisted. I know its a weird list, but it started with the megadolon, which is NOT for anything else except PC. So its out of the question unless there's a workaround.
The sr80's are not circumaural but have nearly the best sound.
The AD700's i have no idea about.
The Hd555 i am not sure if my PC or my future laptop can drive them well enough. Other wise, they are the best option, and i am probably gonna buy these.
The siberia V2, i am confident about, just that they really dont provide that level of comfort and "audiophile-ness".
Please, gods of audio, tell me, How important is it to get an amp?
What do the HD555/AD700's sound like, au naturele??
Pls feel free to correct and suggest me better stuff.
EDIT-
Just saw the HD558's, and read they are a major improvement over The 555's.
How abt 558 + a fiio e5?
Should be barely affordable?
The HD558'8 really improve over the AD700's and the HD555's. It has an improved soundstage , but looser bass.
Sr80i is actually quite in the price range. But, they arent circumaural and i have no idea how much power is needed to drive them properly.
I have basically included the siberia and the megadolon coz they are more "consumer" headsets, and not exotic. That means, i will have a better probability of being satisfied by them, as they target a MUCH wider audience. Plus (somewhat a minus too) the megadolon has the fancy maelstrom.
The AD700's are easier to drive?
The last thing is, i really dont have the money to buy a good DAC/amp, i'll be holding off on that purchase for abt an year. I can maybe fit an e5 into my budget, so would it be worth it? will it cause a difference that is noticeable? will it be enough?
Some more questions-
1. Can The HD558's can achieve full glory without amps? I know that this sounds kiddish, but is the signature same as the HD202's for the 558's without the amp?
The reason i ask is coz i had the phillips shp2500 before, and i dont know why but they sounded flat on both the PC and the phone. I mean the volume so hollow and low that appreciating music was impossible. But having the same impedanc,e the HD202 really impressed me, atleast on the phone. If I really have to-
2. I could squeeze an amp into my budget, what do you recommend below the 100$ range? As in i can barely afford a fiio e7. Is it good enough for the HD558?
Also, i might invest in a bigger better amp, if i save money right now. So if it makes a godly difference, should i buy the fiio e5/JDSlabs Cmoy and ditch the expensive e7?
I know its small and all, but seems that i might need it to extract the worth of the HD558's till the time i get a better dac+amp.
But i need to ensure that the sound will be radically altered or atleast better than stock.
Will it make a difference enough to justify its price?
Note- I know i sound incoherent, this is because all of the above is from different forums. I didnt get a satisfactory response. So i decided to step it up and come to you guys. Thanks for any help you can offer.
EDIT 24/6/11-
Pls Read my latest post, i have locked on the HD558, and there's another contender in the mix- THE M50s.
{sorry for sounding cheesy}