Moondrop in-ear monitors Impressions Thread
Mar 22, 2020 at 9:37 PM Post #4,771 of 12,007
@OwlAudio - mind giving us a tease? The fh7 is on list of iems to check out/ audition. The distance precaution measures only permit me to take local brief jaunts outside. Don't mind the super judgmental aspect of my post. My simplest goal here is to help the curious folk in making informed decisions. That said... I'm curious now! Haha
FH7 is mediocre imo, at least with that garbage LC-2.5C stock cable :frowning2:
 
Mar 22, 2020 at 10:49 PM Post #4,772 of 12,007
@OwlAudio - mind giving us a tease? The fh7 is on list of iems to check out/ audition. The distance precaution measures only permit me to take local brief jaunts outside. Don't mind the super judgmental aspect of my post. My simplest goal here is to help the curious folk in making informed decisions. That said... I'm curious now! Haha
Now, when you mention that, I forgot to thank you as well for your impression of Blessing 2 after @Dsnuts got my attention. You've been indeed very helpful in my decision to get it and for that I'm grateful! :thumbsup:.
I like open and airy sound. Even though Roland is my TOTL, it's mostly because it has very forgiving, balanced sound, where treble has the highest resolution I've heard even despite being on the dark side of it. It's not airiest sounding IEM.
FH7 is mediocre imo, at least with that garbage LC-2.5C stock cable
With stock cable, I cannot bear it either. I'm using thin SPC that came with Audiosense T800 and even that is too bright. Copper is not helpful since it exacerbates higher mids emphasis of FH7. It's is the opposite of Roland on the high end & opposite of Blessing2 on the low end, it's bold, full & airy with soundstage that to my ears sometimes abnormally wide and abnormally open(when besides ambient feel, sometimes I feel like eartip seal is lost, weird..).
I wouldn't say that FH7 is brighter than Blessing2, it's lower treble is more aggressive and not perceived as smooth, the way Blessing2 is. The bass of FH7 is almost legendary in the way it's controlled. I tolerate it easier than ISN H40 as it stays in its lane all the time. Today I would go rather with DUNU DK3001 but not because DUNU bass is better - All of that talk about "Pure beryllium" vs FH7s coated driver is BS, as long as IEM has a crossover and has DD only cover bass+low mids. All the unwanted harmonics that Beryllium reduces, matter only at the treble (like in Luna). FH7 bass and vocals are perfect. Ideal IEM would be FH7s lower half + Blessing2 treble, even better - with top treble part 10K+ from Roland. Dunu 3001 would be my choice because of more forgiving treble.
I would make more efford to make FH7 work for me if it was usable outside and in noisy places, but it has 2 vents and shallow fit. Also, as I said, I'm weary of the metal shells in IEMs.
 
Mar 23, 2020 at 1:35 PM Post #4,773 of 12,007
The frequency response with the FD-X1 is more linear than the Starfield, and the technicalities are an improvement as well. While I'm not happy with the default tuning of either IEM, the FD-X1 is absolutely worth the effort of dialing in a proper EQ setting. With EQ, it is the best IEM I've ever heard. Granted, I haven't spent enough time with the Starfield, but I don't know how effective EQ would be at putting it at the same level as the FD-X1.

Sorry for the old quote, but how much better the JVC X1 technicalities?
I have some comfort concerns with the X1 so that's why I am considering the Moondrops.
 
Mar 23, 2020 at 5:53 PM Post #4,774 of 12,007
Sorry for the old quote, but how much better the JVC X1 technicalities?
I have some comfort concerns with the X1 so that's why I am considering the Moondrops.
The Moondrop Kanas Pro really got me started down the rabbit hole, and was a revelation for me 2 years ago, but I also realized quickly that it had it‘s issues. Clarity, detail, floaty vocals, powerful sub bass impressed, but mid bass was lacking body, I felt that the driver was a little slow and lacked definition, in busy passages they got congested and there was a slight smearing of vocals and mids that gave them a dreamy, wide sound. Wonderful for some music, less so for other. I described it in detail in this thread. The Starfield is the third iteration of the Kanas Pro and although I have even thought of getting them, I would not expect them to be much if any better than the KPE.

My search for an upgrade lead me to the JVC FD02 which I modded similar to what is done with the FDX1.
This has been my daily driver despite buying more expensive IEMs later on. I got the Astell & Kern T8iE MKII, the Sony EX1000 and a QDC 4SS, all significantly more expensive. I still love the FD02 sound, and they seen to work for anything. I have difficulties getting a good fit with IEMs and the FD02 was no different but the Spiral Dots are good and comfortable and with the right size they sit well and sound great.

For the record, the FD02 should sound identical to the FDX1 with either the green or blue filter. I even bought the FDX1 to compare and have a backup to my beloved FD02, but was unlucky, got a bad sample and the replacement is stuck with a friend in the US until this whole virus mess will come to an end.

BTW, the JVC responds well to a cable upgrade, the best sound I got from a DIY silver-teflon cable, second best and most comfortable is the ALO pure silver.
 
Mar 23, 2020 at 6:05 PM Post #4,775 of 12,007
Sorry for the old quote, but how much better the JVC X1 technicalities?
I have some comfort concerns with the X1 so that's why I am considering the Moondrops.

It’s not like a world of difference, but if you have some pretty nice upstream gear, you will notice a difference. Staging goes out further, and imaging is more precise with the JVC. And the treble, while boosted overall in the lower region (making things sound shouty), the JVC has fewer upper peaks, which means it actually is more detailed, not just louder. That being said, the mids and bass tuning on the Moondrop might be more in line with Harman so even if it’s not quite up to par technically, things might sound a bit more natural on them without EQ.
 
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Mar 24, 2020 at 2:24 AM Post #4,778 of 12,007
Any impressions in terms of the difference between the A8 and the S8?
 
Mar 24, 2020 at 3:56 AM Post #4,780 of 12,007
What about soundstage, air and bass?
Soundstage wise, B2 is deeper than wide like OH10. Airiness is similar, but it'll depend on the source. Bass, iirc, OH10 is bigger and punchier than B2. B2 has faster bass also.
 
Mar 24, 2020 at 5:59 AM Post #4,782 of 12,007
I see. Don't know if it will be too lean...

Don't take the chance. Your best bet is to audition if possible. If you want a real unisex specialist, spend big on an Oriolus v2. Ime, has stronger fundamentals (range that gives more body, or perhaps in technical jargon, more weight giving a fuller experience). For the same or half price used of a Blessing 2, try out the old dn2000 if you want that fuller vocal experience. There is sweetness there, even in male singers, as well as certain female jazz vocalists.

Maybe you can try your luck with the more expensive Moondrop S8 because it's more of a slight bump but don't take my word it. Ask around. Hope this helps.
 
Mar 24, 2020 at 6:12 AM Post #4,783 of 12,007
Don't take the chance. Your best bet is to audition if possible. If you want a real unisex specialist, spend big on an Oriolus v2. Ime, has stronger fundamentals (range that gives more body, or perhaps in technical jargon, more weight giving a fuller experience). For the same or half price used of a Blessing 2, try out the old dn2000 if you want that fuller vocal experience. There is sweetness there, even in male singers, as well as certain female jazz vocalists.

Maybe you can try your luck with the more expensive Moondrop S8 because it's more of a slight bump but don't take my word it. Ask around. Hope this helps.

Actually i already have the mkII haha. But just wanted somwthing more comfortable and slightly brighter but still sort of retaining the same bass.
 
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Mar 24, 2020 at 6:25 AM Post #4,784 of 12,007
Actually i already have the mkII haha.

Good. I'll save you time. Thin vocals? Not necessarily the case, because a certain range of female vocals/vocalists sounds decent. They overlap with the v2 at a certain spectrum, but there is sweetness specific in the blessing. Whole lot more details? Too early, need more time.

Iirc, flc8s had saliva details but felt too smooth or had timbral issues because the its ba mids had a different quality and performance to them. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll see how I can help.
 
Mar 24, 2020 at 7:02 AM Post #4,785 of 12,007
Good. I'll save you time. Thin vocals? Not necessarily the case, because a certain range of female vocals/vocalists sounds decent. They overlap with the v2 at a certain spectrum, but there is sweetness specific in the blessing. Whole lot more details? Too early, need more time.

Iirc, flc8s had saliva details but felt too smooth or had timbral issues because the its ba mids had a different quality and performance to them. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll see how I can help.

Dd bass slightly north of neutral with good details, soundstage and imaging with forward and airy vocals. Slightly warm with good clarity too.
 

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