kameenadesi
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does the M1060 really sound as good as LCD3 or is it on par with something like an HE-400?
So would you say these are endgame material for some?
So would you say these are endgame material for some?
Surely they can. End game need not cost $1000+. Many headphones can be endgame.
I own HE-500, HD6xx, T1, Modded M1060, all can be classified endgame headphones depending on personal taste. And many others obviously too. Ultrasone's pro 900 was my favorite can for the longest time, and I still love them, they could have been my endgame if I stopped there with them.
Who has the right to tell you a particular can is not endgame? It's a silly question... endgame can is defined personally by you.
@cskippy
Tried a transparency about as close I could get, to give better sense of differences.
must be some difference between ARTA and REW my 1/12th looks far smoother than his 1/9th. All my dips are more exaggerated.
one more overlay for fun @cskippy
[COLOR=B22222]Red=HD650[/COLOR]
[COLOR=FFD700]Yellow=Cskippy's measurment of Cskippy mod[/COLOR]
[COLOR=00FF00]Green=My measurment of Cskippy's mod[/COLOR]
[COLOR=0000FF]Blue=My measurement of my mod.[/COLOR]
Despite weirdness above 10k and completely different couplers, mics, and drivers. your measurement of your mod, and my measurement of your mod are fairly close, below 10khz.
I don't personally like the scale you use, as it makes fairly large +/- db swings look minor to me. Either way I think we can safely say accounting for driver variance and position we fairly compare measurements between our system under 10khz.
The reason I keep the scale I do is so I can see how the frequency response works as a whole. When you zoom in so much that all the little peaks and valleys show, you fixate on those instead of the overall coherency. Believe me, I've been there. Your ears don't work that way. I am a recording/mixing engineer and I critique my professional friends mastering.
I'm not without bias or personal preference. My ideal frequency response is akin to the B&K Curve, or a gentle roll off after 200Hz. I can match my headphones to this curve and compare them VERY favorably to my speakers also matched (using mic in free air on stand, not coupler).
Look at this graph and tell me you hear the headphones how they look:
It presents great detail for analysis but is nowhere close to how I perceive them.
Now here is my usual range:
This to me already has quite obvious bumps and dips that are unacceptable for a perfect frequency response, but are damn closer than stock.
Just sharing my thought process...