| Originally Posted by nylan8301 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thorn Elemental isn't unblockable, he only assigns damage as though he weren't blocked. Your opponents could still block him, but he would simply assign all 14 damage to the opponent he was attacking. This means that he could potentially be killed with enough blockers. That's why the Thorn Elemental, while good, isn't quite as good as Rhox, who has regeneration to off-set the chance he could be killed in combat. |
| I'm curious why you splashed white into a zombie deck. Wrath of god, maybe? |
| Originally Posted by nylan8301 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why red slivers? The only good slivers for red are homing sliver and heart sliver...neither of which really help win games in the long run. I would dump the red and go with blue slivers (winged and crystalline being the replacements) along with counters to back it up. So, pretty much counter-slivers. That doubling season/mycoloth deck must be for group games as that combo is slower than molasses. However, in a group game, once it went off, it would go off big. Running any other "fungi" in that deck? Doubling season does fairly well with all the Time Spiral fungus. Anywho, good to hear that the younger folk are playing... Nylan |
| Originally Posted by Gatto /img/forum/go_quote.gif I don't have my decks on me so I can't tell you exactly what red slivers I've got in there but I have a 4/4 that gives me trample, a 3/3 that gives double strike and a few other things. The deck also has two sliver legions (obviously not to be put out at the same time) which do a good job of pulling games into my favor. The sap deck is entirely fungus creatures, it has life and limb (along with naturalize to prevent my board from getting wiped), mycoloths and doubling seasons along with the green/white guildmage that lets me buy saps. it takes about 3 turns to really get going but if I live more then 7 turns the deck doesn't lose. The reason it works so well is the game either starts with me having a doubling seasons in my first hand and in 5 turns I'm pumping out saps from my fungus cards like crazy. I also have fungus that lets me fog so if I have a doubling seasons out I'm also pretty hard to touch with a few of those in play. Or I have all fungus and the deck runs like a tribal deck and I end up with a few saps. If the saps can't get them I can easily overrun the average deck with the fungus creatures I put in. |
| Originally Posted by nsx_23 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Oh, and here's the card list for my current favorite deck Plains 8 Swamp 8 Sunfire Balm Vigilance Master apothecary Defender of the order Disciple of Grace x 2 Pious Kitsune Daru Mender Healing slave Nobal Templar Valor Teroh's Faithful Celestial gatekeeper Profane prayers x 2 Daunting defender x 3 Whipgrass entangler x 2 Doubtless one x 3 Battlefield Medic x 2 Cage of Hands Defensive Maneuvers Misery Charm x 2 Daru spiritualist Holy strength Akroma's devoted Viscous hunger Disciple of Malice Vile Deacon x 2 Cabal Archon Cleanfall x 2 Soltari Visionary x 2 Decree of Justice Zealous Inquisitor Indomitable will Sandskin x 2 Renewed Faith Walking nightmare Ghostly Prison Silver Seraph. 66 cards total Any suggestions? It seems to do rather well at the moment. |
| Originally Posted by nsx_23 /img/forum/go_quote.gif From my playing so far, I think what I'd like to do is control the game with threats, which atm is mainly done by having lots of clerics out to bolster each other (e.g. Doubtless one). I really haven't played enough, especially against experienced competition, to know where the real weaknesses of my deck lie at the moment. Mana draw doesn't seem to be a big issue at the moment, but you're right, I think I will get some more mana in there pronto. Since I'm so noob at this, what are the deck limitations for tournament play? I thought that the 2 main rules were no more than 4 copies of 1 card, and minimum 60 cards. Oh yeah, I'm heading into the city tomorrow, so I might pop by the card shops. Anything I should look out for (theme decks, boosters, whatever)? |
| Originally Posted by nsx_23 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Isn't making money out of it a good thing? |
| Originally Posted by nylan8301 /img/forum/go_quote.gif It depends on the tournament. There are four different tournaments that exist: standard (or type 2 as many people call it), extended (or type 1.5 as many would say), Vintage (which is type 1), and legacy (which is tweaked vintage). Sadly, your deck would only be extended legal, which is a pretty brutal format. As far as some good cards for control in black and white; sword to plowshares, wrath of god, path to exile, and terror to name a very small few. Two really good clerics are mother of runes and beloved chaplain (both rares and might be expensive). Another would be edgewalker. Good luck, Nylan PS: Search on the gatherer at the M:tG website to get ideas for other good clerics. |
