Low end. Cheap. Generic. Otherwise bang for buck cable thread!
May 16, 2021 at 10:57 AM Post #6,271 of 9,211
Hello - New user here, first post. New to the world of IEMS, upgrading my work setup with a portable DAC (BTR5). Found this thread super useful for finding a cable for my new KZ ZSX IEMS. Shout out to @RikudouGoku for bringing XINHS to my attention.

Will be replacing the stock cable with a balanced 2.5mm QDC.
I love the look of the purple cables XINHS makes. But I'm unsure how good silver foil is? Seems to be priced higher than silver plated copper, so I assume better? But there's not really any other similar in his store.
Seems to be on offer for GBP17.44 / USD 23.40 too.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001747129492.html

Wondering if I should get something like the pure silver for a similar price.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002042493770.html?

Or even push up to the silver copper mix that's highly rated.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002350509830.html?
All of them are excellent, so pick one based on visual preference.
 
May 16, 2021 at 9:31 PM Post #6,273 of 9,211
Thanks for the quick reply. I spoke to the seller and he replied quickly too.
I've ordered the purple with silver foil. Was the cheaper of the two as it was on the most discount. With local tax (VAT) it came to around £20, which is over half what the IEMs cost haha. But still I think good value.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001747129492.html?
that's a pretty nice cable, one of the few from XinHs that uses a graphene skin.
 
May 16, 2021 at 11:31 PM Post #6,275 of 9,211
Thanks for the quick reply. I spoke to the seller and he replied quickly too.
I've ordered the purple with silver foil. Was the cheaper of the two as it was on the most discount. With local tax (VAT) it came to around £20, which is over half what the IEMs cost haha. But still I think good value.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001747129492.html?

I was talking about the purple cable this morning. Just be aware that it is purple, not blue-ish purple.

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May 17, 2021 at 10:42 AM Post #6,277 of 9,211
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May 17, 2021 at 12:15 PM Post #6,280 of 9,211
Hi, is this the lowest impedance copper cable you've measured so far? :thinking:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001843143301.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.4b022e0e87BbXO
Not the lowest, but the few 4 core coppers I have all measure quite well on my cheap multimeter. To compare that number to Rikudou's measurements, subract the internal resistance of 0.1 for these clips.

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I think the lowest I measured would be my custom 8 core copper but as you can see, not that far from the 4 core.

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May 17, 2021 at 12:30 PM Post #6,281 of 9,211
Not the lowest, but the few 4 core coppers I have all measure quite well on my cheap multimeter. To compare that number to Rikudou's measurements, subract the internal resistance of 0.1 for these clips.



I think the lowest I measured would be my custom 8 core copper but as you can see, not that far from the 4 core.

Not sure if your measurement method changed, but I saw your post before showing these values below. The bright copper measured 0.13 below? ....EDIT: ohhhh subtract 0.1? Got it XD

I might go for the bright copper 4 core, as the 8 core one seems pretty heavy

 
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May 17, 2021 at 1:03 PM Post #6,282 of 9,211
Not the lowest, but the few 4 core coppers I have all measure quite well on my cheap multimeter. To compare that number to Rikudou's measurements, subract the internal resistance of 0.1 for these clips.



I think the lowest I measured would be my custom 8 core copper but as you can see, not that far from the 4 core.

Everyone needs to remember that neither I nor Paul uses super accurate multimeters. The numbers are only good when we are comparing to stuff we have measured, not that the cables we measure are at the resistance we get. For accurate measurements you have guys like Slater and Hakuzen with their more accurate gear. But I say that me and Paul are doing more than a good job in this cable part of the audio hobby where no one else seems to bother with measuring cables despite getting free cables.....


Unit variation between the cables themselves might also be enough to make them look different. Like in the picture Paul showed, there was only a 0.03 difference in ohms, which IMO doesnt really make a difference, it is a super small difference anyway.
 
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May 17, 2021 at 2:03 PM Post #6,283 of 9,211
Not sure if your measurement method changed, but I saw your post before showing these values below. The bright copper measured 0.13 below? ....EDIT: ohhhh subtract 0.1? Got it XD

I might go for the bright copper 4 core, as the 8 core one seems pretty heavy
Yep, you got it. I have a thing for contrasting colors so you can ask for a 2 core bright, 2 core dark if the color scheme is of interest. I really like Rikudou's copper/silver mix, that is a really nice cable. What I have noticed on the 4 cores is people are saying they are stiffer than expected. If you are used to a very soft 8 or 16 core, these thicker 4 cores are a bit stiffer than those.
 
May 18, 2021 at 7:47 AM Post #6,284 of 9,211
May 18, 2021 at 10:56 AM Post #6,285 of 9,211
I added a new column that tells you the value, the "bang for the buck" you get with cables with the column called "conductance/price" (with the little description that higher is better to make it more clear on what it is).

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You can right click on the column (D) and sort it by "Z->A" which gives you the highest value first and thats the best "bang for the buck" cable.

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Credits to @PhonoPhi for helping me with this.
 

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