Hello Good People First must say I love this forum, up until now just as a reader and enjoying the threads. I really need some help from the IEM experts here, where I live, there is not much reference to listening to, so when thinking about buying, I cannot try before, so I know what I'm looking for in quality and sound definition, and need to hear some opinions to help guide the way. Today what I have is HD800 + AMP. I use it at home and love them, but I feel the bass is not there, and there is no energy. Having said that I do love the layering, the depth, the sound stage, separation, amazing! These days I'm looking to take my listing experience on the go, I have babies at home, lost privacy, and looking for the best setup for the ultimate escapism. So what am I looking for and why I need your help. Budget wise, NO LIMIT! I mean, I don't want to buy the most expensive just because they are, I want to buy the best that I can get for what I'm looking for, and willing to invest in IEM, Wires, DAC's, AMP's, whatever it takes. I'm looking to get a sound that is close to the hd800+bass in an IEM. SOUNDWIZE: I like discovering layers in songs, the more arrangement is complicated in the song, the better, today pop songs quickly have more than 100 channels in a song, and I love finding new layers discovering new technique or hooks in the songs., I also like tech house or techno, even Pink Floyd, Zepplin, rap, and trap. All genres but I don't see myself as bass head; I do love rap, rap, EDM, house, techno, and bass is super essential for the FEEL and ENERGY, but.. it is crucial that bass or sub-bass will not overtake the mids. As rock, pop is the main factor as well. Trebles are also essential, but I don't want to get fatigued from them. So as said earlier, the dream will be HD800 sound stage depth and separation with good and deep bass with and good energy and feel and not flat dull. I will also prefer a setup that is as easy to carry as possible, for example, some of the choices I looked into was the kse1200, they come with an amp, and when I consider a DAC as well they are not as portable as just a DAC with amp build in and earphones. However having said that, The most significant factor is: * sound * comfort after * and portability after. price and design are later. by the way, if what I'm looking for is not possible, I can also consider 2 IEM's: 1.more fun but with good quilty, separation, depth 2. more surgical. up until now I think I read about every IEM'S on the market, and have some options on the table, but I am completely open for different opinion, so if you think there is one, please share. my options as I see them: ( sony WMA1 dac/amp / CAYIN N8 / + KSE1200. (affraid of the lack of energy i read people write about) sony WMA1 dac/amp + PWADUDIO 1950 balanced cable + EMPIRE X LEGEND X (costume/universal) (afraid of the bass i read is very presence) sony WMA1 dac/amp +AUDIO 64 A18 / FOURTE univarsal + blanced good cable. sony WMA1 / CAYIN N8 / + EMPIRE EARS PHANTOM + PWADUDIO 1950 blanced cable sony WMA1 + VISION EARS ERLKONIG / VE8 + good cable sony WMA1 + SPIRAL EARS SE5/SE6 + PWADUDIO 1950 blanced cable. other options i looked into: IEM'S: noble audio kahn / campfire solaris/andromada / weston es80 / Lark studio lsx / Layla v3 / DITA XLS DAC'S /DAPS: ibasso dx200 w/amp4 / mojo / astell sp1000m . Sorry for the long post. hearing pro opnion is the best guidenss i can have without listing to all options. andsaid I am open to hearing new opinions as well, THnks for the help!!