leeperry
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the volume attenuation in Reclock is done in 53bit, and James doesn't care/believe in dithering apparently.
Since uLilith is all the rage now in a local forum, I've decided to give it a thorough A/B with Foobar. I've set both players to output data via WASAPI, output data format is in 16-bit integer, buffer length is set to 50ms, and all DSP/resamplings are turned off in both Windows and the players.
The result? Both players sound exactly the same but frankly even if uLilith is slightly moar better than Foobar, I wouldn't use a player that won't even allow me to do a proper search in my playlist.
If I would rate, the sound quality of Foobar 2K + WASAPI is 7/10, and Lilith + WASAPI is 10/10, lilith is simply outstanding, the best sound player I've ever heard.
I'm talking and only focused on sound quality here
I've read a post that said lilith 0.992 is better than uLilith, is that true?
And how to update uLilith?
I'm using Intel core 2 duo 2.2 GHz, do I need to use 2010-10-14_SSE2Diff.7z, which I can download at http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2010-10-14_SSE2Diff.7z ?
What is SSE2Diff.7z? Can it make the sound quality better?
1) dunno, it's not in english and they share the same audio engine
2) manually
3) you wanna use the core2 ICL11 build
4) it patches the X86 build to Core2
3) and 4) what is core2 ICL11 build? I have downloaded uLilith from http://www.project9k.jp/download/uLilith/2010-10-14_Core2.7z , it is core2 build, isn't it? If I have downloaded the core2 build, then I do not need to patch and use SSE2Diff, don't we?
time wasted
Well, yeah, all those players are bit-perfect...the rage lies in the software induced jitter these days, which depends on your OS, gear and ears.
some links, again:
http://www.cicsmemoryplayer.com/index.php?n=CMP.03Jitter
http://www.phasure.com/index.php?topic=692.0
And it's good to set uLilith's audio thread in realtime priority...like Reclock does for its WASAPI buffer.
everyone but you hears a difference...Realtek aren't what they used to no more
Since uLilith is all the rage now in a local forum, I've decided to give it a thorough A/B with Foobar. I've set both players to output data via WASAPI, output data format is in 16-bit integer, buffer length is set to 50ms, and all DSP/resamplings are turned off in both Windows and the players.
The result? Both players sound exactly the same but frankly even if uLilith is slightly moar better than Foobar, I wouldn't use a player that won't even allow me to do a proper search in my playlist.
The biggest difference I hear between the two is the soundstage. uLilith sounds more like my DVD player feeding my DAC and Foobar2k just sounds messed up, flatter, and unnatural by comparison. It also sounds fuzzier to me, though I wouldn't say "bass-shy." As nice as uLilith + WASAPI is, uLilith + ASIO4ALL sounds slightly better overall to me, and a touch richer. Less treble harshness from the slight warmth, it seems to me. Not as clean, neutral, and airy as Reclock, though.
I do agree uLilith's GUI isn't the best, and I wish it would support ALAC at least 'cuz I'm too lazy to go dig up my FLAC backup archives from which the ALAC collection is based on. (lol)