[WarriorAnt]

 


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I can't go to a totally high-end cable yet for my LCD-2 as I still have other priorities for my system(s), but if I was I would have to seriously consider a DIY Crystal Piccolino from Parrots. Compared to retail on the wire alone it's a smoking deal.

I want Parrots to mod the internal wiring of my LCD...

 

[WarriorAnt]

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Haha that bag really does cost $1600, can't give out any free ones sorry...if you can afford those cables, you may as well get a proper bag for them.  I don't have 999 on hand, that just means I'm willing to build up to 999 of them.  I can't send out Spore cables, it's already costing me a fortune to build some for myself.

For 3K will you come to my home and hook up the cable?   
 

 

[scootermafia]

Doing the internal wiring of the LCD-2 is not fun, pretty easy to kill that connector.
 
For $3k I will fly to your house and model some Italian bags for you.

 

[WarriorAnt]

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Doing the internal wiring of the LCD-2 is not fun, pretty easy to kill that connector.
 
For $3k I will fly to your house and model some Italian bags for you.

Bring some matching shoes also.
 

 

[cifani090]

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I want Parrots to mod the internal wiring of my LCD...

Never heard of this, what are the differences?
 

 

[WarriorAnt]

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Never heard of this, what are the differences?
 

I forgot where it was posted recently.  "Parrots" opened up his LCD and rewired it with some very nice silver wire.  Very deft work.  I had thought of doing something like this after my LCD warranty runs out.  I would have gone a step further and changed out the metal connectors screwed or bolted to the LCD after the internal wiring although I do not know what else i would use instead.  I am not skilled at doing that work so I would have someone else actually do it.   Maybe some can post here the photos of Parrots internal mod.
 

 

[scootermafia]

This just reminded me of something.  I replaced my LCD-2's wire with something that I was fairly sure was an upgrade.  I then stripped down the stock wiring and saw that it was pure, solid silver wire in teflon.  I felt very stupid at this point.  I also nearly had a heart attack doing the mod, it's not something I would ever, ever do for any reason, ever again.  The jack is deeply recessed into the wood and it is not easy to get in there and see what's going on.  You also have the fun of making sure that the 2 sets of contacts are connected to each other.  
 
TL;DR - The LCD-2s are already internally wired with pure silver, from what I can tell.  Don't "upgrade" their stock wire.  

 

[WarriorAnt]

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This just reminded me of something.  I replaced my LCD-2's wire with something that I was fairly sure was an upgrade.  I then stripped down the stock wiring and saw that it was pure, solid silver wire in teflon.  I felt very stupid at this point.  I also nearly had a heart attack doing the mod, it's not something I would ever, ever do for any reason, ever again.  The jack is deeply recessed into the wood and it is not easy to get in there and see what's going on.  You also have the fun of making sure that the 2 sets of contacts are connected to each other.  
 
TL;DR - The LCD-2s are already internally wired with pure silver, from what I can tell.  Don't "upgrade" their stock wire.  

Excellent info.  I did not know this. Audeze does not mention anything about the internal wiring that I know of.  There goes my about to bloom cottage industry.  

 

 

[kwkarth]

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Where is that guy whose name also means Foucault currents?    

Probably caught in a whirlpool.
 
"a circular movement of water, counter to a main current, causing a small whirlpool."
 

 

[scootermafia]

Audez'e should be proud of the wire they use, since I'm almost completely sure it's pure silver.  Since the length is tiny there's no reason why they wouldn't go all out for that.  A business replacing LCD2 internal wire would be about as fun as tearing off your fingernails with pliers.

 

[WarriorAnt]

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Probably caught in a whirlpool.
 
"a circular movement of water, counter to a main current, causing a small whirlpool."
 

Perhaps it is just the heat of the summer.  Too much summer heat.
 
Quoting from "Electricity and Basic electronics" by Stephen R. Matt 5th edition  P.165
 
Heat is created in the transformer when alternating currents (Eddy currents) are forced to flow in the core because of induced voltages. The larger the voltage created by the fields, the greater the heat generated in the transformer. the greater the heat, the greater the energy loss. In the trade, this loss is known as "Eddy-current loss".  

Too much heat I think.  Perhaps more varnish or oxide needs to be applied for better insulation...
 
 

 

[WarriorAnt]

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Audez'e should be proud of the wire they use, since I'm almost completely sure it's pure silver.  Since the length is tiny there's no reason why they wouldn't go all out for that.  A business replacing LCD2 internal wire would be about as fun as tearing off your fingernails with pliers.

But with the money I would have made I could have bought that 3K cable and some shoes to go with the bag.

 

[grokit]

 
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Audez'e should be proud of the wire they use, since I'm almost completely sure it's pure silver.  Since the length is tiny there's no reason why they wouldn't go all out for that.  A business replacing LCD2 internal wire would be about as fun as tearing off your fingernails with pliers.

That's good to know. But evidently the Crystal Piccolino is not just silver; according to Jaben,
 
"Crystal uses a unique silver and gold combination which helps deliver better sound and signals.
The very pure silver Crystal uses has a crystal structure. That means by solidification of the metal, you get round-shaped crystal boundaries touching each other, buy having "bad places" where they don't touch.
These bad gaps are filled/injected with gold, which is the only metal that can be used for this.
It makes the way of the electric signal smooth and in time again."
 
So it may still be an upgrade. Also it is evidently quite difficult to solder properly.
 
You and Parrots are both madmen; kids, don't try this at home!

 

[Proglover]

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Yes, true. You get a LV bag for this cable! Are you really getting a review sample? I may be getting either a spore cable or a Molecule cable. First i gotta try dem LCD-2's!
 

No, no, that was a joke

I don't think makers like Q-Audio, Norse and DHX need to give/loan review sample cables anymore, their names are well established in the headphone world and there are plenty of opinions about their products (except the spore, lol), but if any of them were to let a head-fier review them, I'd definitely not be the best choice for that task; there are members here and even active in this specific topic, who can do that way better then me.
 
You're deciding between spore and molecule?! That's the entry and the most expensive one. You mean molecule and macro-molecule or clone, not?
 
Anyway, indeed, I'd first get the LCD-2's and make sure you're certain about keeping it.
 

 

[Buttsack]

I'm tossing up whether to get the Double Helix Molecule OCC (12ft $235) or the Q-Audio (13ft $340) cables. Are the Q-Audio cables worth the extra money? Has anyone listened to both and can make comparisons?