[wazzupi]

Has anyone been tube rolling to find a good tube for the lcd 2.2 with the la figaro 339 ? I'm interesting in purchasing the hd800 or lcd2.2 as my next headphone as I already purchased and am waiting for my la figaro 339 *patiently lol*. 

 

[hifimanrookie]

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Has anyone been tube rolling to find a good tube for the lcd 2.2 with the la figaro 339 ? I'm interesting in purchasing the hd800 or lcd2.2 as my next headphone as I already purchased and am waiting for my la figaro 339 *patiently lol*. 

Dont know how to say this nicely.but...allthough i love my 337 (339 is her sister) to death..i found out no matter what tube i used it didnt really sing with the lcd rev. 2 like it does with the he500. So better buy a he500 if u wanna keep ur 339..trust me..u wont regret that..the he500 in combo with 339/337 is a match in heaven
 
if u do want the lcd then the v200 is a much much better choice.it sounds perfectly on that amp!.
 
.it was okay at most with the lcd..the hd800 sounds even worse...i actually bought my 337 from a new owner of a hd800...as he hated how it sounded on the 337.so he sold it to buy a custommade bada amp...the bottlehead crack and bada amps sound very good with this phone i understand.
 
the 337/339 sounds best on he500/400 the hd650 and k701..of the ones i tried or heard..there are more probably..
dont get me wrong..i love the lcd's and one day i probably will buy a lcd 3...but not with the  337/339..but this is ofcourse imho.
tip...best tubes are gec a1834 or TS 5998 for power and ts sj7gt mesh plates or rca 5693 reds for driver tubes..ofcourse again imho
 
the bendix 6080wb with graphite columns is  in my opinion a hidden gem..its strong..so its perfect for planar phones who need a bit more gain..it sounds a bit like ts5998 only bass is fuller and detail and air is a bit less.
pity the graphite columned tubes are hard to get..i by accident found a matched pair..so i call myself lucky.

 
and guys..this is ofcourse in my honest opinion and to my ears...

 

[wazzupi]

well I was under the impression the 339 was capable of driving any headphone in the spectrum of ohm(except the he-6 of course) but none of the other models were(darkvoice)...  also I find it odd that the lcd is always associated with the la figaro via pictures or in talks of it and that the he500 is ortho such as the lcd 2.2 and the hd650 has a similar sound signature to the lcd-2.2. I can't imagine it being bad, but probably not the best fitting amp for the lcd 2.2....  

 

[hifimanrookie]

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well I was under the impression the 339 was capable of driving any headphone in the spectrum of ohm(except the he-6 of course) but none of the other models were(darkvoice)...  also I find it odd that the lcd is always associated with the la figaro via pictures or in talks of it and that the he500 is ortho such as the lcd 2.2 and the hd650 has a similar sound signature to the lcd-2.2. I can't imagine it being bad, but probably not the best fitting amp for the lcd 2.2....  

Not bad..but not optimal also..in my opinion if u wanna spend that much on a headphone its best to get the best amp u can afford that pairs best...imho ofcourse.

 

[Golotripa]

I have to agree with Hifimanrookie. While the LCD2.2 was fine and more musical sounding on the 339, it didn't excel in the main asset of the LCD2.2 - this being its strong lower end. In fact, I much prefer my HD650 with the 339 in comparison. So yes, the LCD2.2 is NOT bad sounding, but it's just not a great pairing with the 339.
 
I should mention I haven't tried many tubes at all other than the stock tube and the 5998+5693. But again, if I had to, I would recommend choosing another amp to pair with LCD2.2s if that is your favorite sounding headphone.

 

[snip3r77]

Slight OT.

Since we can put the crackball to drive the HE500, I was just thinking how does the HD650 compares btw the 339 and the Crack?

Cheers.

thanks for this feedback especially since you own the V200 and going through same thing with your lcd2.2, yea I love my hd650/crack speedball and my 339/he500, so with the lcd2.2 aren't getting much use.  As good the lcd2.2 is its become the odd man out I don't want to buy yet another amp, there's something about these tube amps that makes me not want to buy a solid state amp anymore.

btw when you try the he500 with the 339 , its going to be a life changing experience!

 

[hifimanrookie]

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Slight OT.

Since we can put the crackball to drive the HE500, I was just thinking how does the HD650 compares btw the 339 and the Crack?

Cheers.

Never heard the crack..but..i heard the hd650 on my amp..it Completely changes ur opinion about the hd650 being Mid-fi phone...with the 339/337 its honestly is a match in heaven...it sings! .only te he500 betters that with same amp...and am not only one who has this opinion.

 

[Ultrainferno]

Crack is faster, cleaner and more detailed.
339 is warmer, has more bassweight and overal is very tube-ish (but is slower)

So they're both great amps with the HD650 but my personal preferance goes to the 339 wit RCA power tubes and ef80 inputs.

 

[eantala]

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Crack is faster, cleaner and more detailed.
339 is warmer, has more bassweight and overal is very tube-ish (but is slower)

So they're both great amps with the HD650 but my personal preferance goes to the 339 wit RCA power tubes and ef80 inputs.

that pretty much sums it up.. on the 339 I have pretty nice tubes (I've picked up 4 5998's, and just got a pair of 421a, if only I could find those mesh plate tung sols!)., but on the crack speedball for a while I just used a 7236 output tube and a mullard cv4003 didn't do much rolling. But today I dropped in a tungstram e80cc the sound is much more clearer, very squeky clean. I also picked up a cbs 5814a tube, and wiating for some 12bh7 tube to come in.  l picked up a 6sn7 to 12au7 adapter so I can start using a 6sn7 assortment I got sitting around from my jeff korneff integrated 45 speaker amp and I'll see if thats a game changer.  this hobby has gotten exponentially more expensive for me since I went all tubes!  Its no more set it and forget it, I keep swapping things in and out never endingly but at the same time I'm listening to entire songs and really enjoying things.

 

[hifimanrookie]

Welome to the club my friend

 

[kanshouhin]

This my 339 renference final upgrade.

 

[wazzupi]

I'm sorry to notice but you only have 1 post on these forums so that post doesn't really make much sense to me lol.. not to call you out or anything my intuition lead me to do so... 

 

[hifimanrookie]

  Damn that amp looks like the lambo of the 339's...can u tell us specifically what U have altered in 339...am really curious now...pls put it in steps..we all are interested..
and prices of the parts also would be greatly helpful as is where u bought the parts from...
we all want the best from our 339/337..especially the ones with hard to drive phones like planars..thanks!

 

[wazzupi]

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  Damn that amp looks like the lambo of the 339's...can u tell us specifically what U have altered in 339...am really curious now...pls put it in steps..we all are interested..
and prices of the parts also would be greatly helpful as is where u bought the parts from...
we all want the best from our 339/337..especially the ones with hard to drive phones like planars..thanks!

+1 

 

[kramer5150]

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I'm sorry to notice but you only have 1 post on these forums so that post doesn't really make much sense to me lol.. not to call you out or anything my intuition lead me to do so... 

The chinese headphone forums have DIY members modding DV amps.  I  have seen similar mods on those forums, running through google translator.
Some of the skills and workmanship no those forums is every bit as good as anything you's see here.
 
Those forum members don't always make their way over here.  Some HF posts and a Chinese forum.  Some really wicked stuff.  Looks like power section resistor loads are being distributed on these builds.  Arrays of smaller resistors in place of 3-4 big ones. 
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/611348/help-needed-to-upgrade-the-capacitor-in-otl-tube-amp/90#post_9182513
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/611348/help-needed-to-upgrade-the-capacitor-in-otl-tube-amp/90#post_9193890
 
http://www.diybuy.net/viewthread.php?tid=461889&extra=&page=1