Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
May 6, 2019 at 12:30 PM Post #43,757 of 64,001
Hello

Just ordered a KS-AS16, from ali...

Need help finding a TRRS 2.5mm tha fit this cable, my orther IEMs use 2pin 0,78mm.

Many Thanks

The cables you already have will probably fit.
 
May 6, 2019 at 12:58 PM Post #43,758 of 64,001
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...-Cancelling-Earbuds/1358152_33011866931.html?

Here is the link at the "official" KZ store for the AS16 for the peeps who didn't know and I noticed on one of the promo images it shows on the outer casing dynamic x 2 and balanced armature x 4 so originally it had a different driver layout. Wondered why they changed it and also using new ba's for the highs. Should be a good comparison with the guys who have the CCA C16.
 
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May 6, 2019 at 1:50 PM Post #43,760 of 64,001
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/pr...-Cancelling-Earbuds/1358152_33011866931.html?

Here is the link at the "official" KZ store for the AS16 for the peeps who didn't know and I noticed on one of the promo images it shows on the outer casing dynamic x 2 and balanced armature x 4 so originally it had a different driver layout. Wondered why they changed it and also using new ba's for the highs. Should be a good comparison with the guys who have the CCA C16.

And I you follow that link for AS16 there is an offer for a free cable if you purchase the AS16 on May 5,6 or 7th.

Still too pricey for me.
 
May 6, 2019 at 2:01 PM Post #43,764 of 64,001
And I you follow that link for AS16 there is an offer for a free cable if you purchase the AS16 on May 5,6 or 7th.

Still too pricey for me.

Yeah, that’s a tough sell.

You can get a CCA C16 plus a ZS10 Pro for the same price.

Sure, I know the C16 was that high when it first came out, and that the AS16 price will drop.
 
May 6, 2019 at 3:03 PM Post #43,766 of 64,001
Yeah, that’s a tough sell.

You can get a CCA C16 plus a ZS10 Pro for the same price.

Sure, I know the C16 was that high when it first came out, and that the AS16 price will drop.

At the moment I'm happy with the ZS10 Pro, AS10, original ZS10 and CCA C10 at a push.
And there's me thinking the ATE was the mutts nuts when I got it. And I think it is for £7 I paid for it.

But I look forward to the reviews of AS16 from the more learned members of this forum.
 
May 6, 2019 at 3:14 PM Post #43,767 of 64,001
About the cable...

Any 2pin 0,78mm will fit?????
Let me know please

Personally I’d be careful shoving a 78nm size metal pin into a 75nm smaller hole. Might work once, but from then on, the original cable will be loose fitting.

I know the .75mm balanced cable exists, took me a while to find though. Will check my past AliX orders later. Am on mobile right now.

Edit: Hope this copy / paste works

US $6.80 31% Off | KZ ZST ZSR ES3 ED12 ZS10 ES4 Silver Plating Upgrade Cable Earphone Headset Replaceable 3.5mm 2.5mm Line for Android IOS
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bpLOeJOg
 
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May 6, 2019 at 4:09 PM Post #43,768 of 64,001
http://www.thephonograph.net/kz-zs10-pro-review/
ThePhonograph's review is out, and the graph shows a number of interesting things.
KZ seem to have changed their DD to something different. It is revealed by a slightly lesser mid-bass bleed and the characteristics of the region encompassing bass and mids and the transition between them. The lines are straight now, both at 20-100Hz and 100-500Hz. It used to be curved for years of KZ models.
Another thing is that the 5-8kHz dip is much less pronounced, hell, it doesn't even really exist, since it's replaced by two medium dips at 3kHz and 6kHz (the depth being about -5dB. The standard 5-8kHz dip used to have a nadir of about -15dB). This region now looks more like that of CCA C16. KZ has done done real signature changes and improvements for once, kudos.

http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/KZ-ZS10-PRO-frequency-response-curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/KZ-ZSN-PRO-frequency-response-curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-con...KZ-ZSN-vs-KZ-ES4-frequency-response-curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/KZ-ZS4-Frequency-Response-Curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/CCA-C16-frequency-response-curve.jpg
(Now, all of the above is true only if the supposition that ThePhonograph hasn't changed their measuring setup and methodology is true, but there's no indication to the contrary.)
 
May 6, 2019 at 6:41 PM Post #43,769 of 64,001
I'm all like "oh yes give me 100 BA's a side" but I'm not thinking about this new one (AS16) at all for some reason. The reason being, I think, is the ZS10 Pro! I had in my ears for like 2 days right off the bat. I was listening to music and not an iem......do you guys follow me.....this ZS10 Pro has me tickled pink and gives me zero reason right now to look at anything else.
Am I alone in that or do some of you feel sorta the same way??
 
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May 6, 2019 at 7:02 PM Post #43,770 of 64,001
http://www.thephonograph.net/kz-zs10-pro-review/
ThePhonograph's review is out, and the graph shows a number of interesting things.
KZ seem to have changed their DD to something different. It is revealed by a slightly lesser mid-bass bleed and the characteristics of the region encompassing bass and mids and the transition between them. The lines are straight now, both at 20-100Hz and 100-500Hz. It used to be curved for years of KZ models.
Another thing is that the 5-8kHz dip is much less pronounced, hell, it doesn't even really exist, since it's replaced by two medium dips at 3kHz and 6kHz (the depth being about -5dB. The standard 5-8kHz dip used to have a nadir of about -15dB). This region now looks more like that of CCA C16. KZ has done done real signature changes and improvements for once, kudos.

http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/KZ-ZS10-PRO-frequency-response-curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/KZ-ZSN-PRO-frequency-response-curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-con...KZ-ZSN-vs-KZ-ES4-frequency-response-curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/KZ-ZS4-Frequency-Response-Curve.jpg
http://www.thephonograph.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/CCA-C16-frequency-response-curve.jpg
(Now, all of the above is true only if the supposition that ThePhonograph hasn't changed their measuring setup and methodology is true, but there's no indication to the contrary.)

Funny you mention the phonograph site - the last time I've checked, the ZS6 still had the highest sound rating (Bass 9-Mids 9-Treble 9) of all the KZs they've tested (and pretty much everything else on their list).
 

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