[eclein]

Hey...congrats on 5000 posts!! Hey do you guys know how to cure stuttering Bluetooth?
When I use Spotify on my android phone or ipad I get intermittent stuttering and it won’t go away no matter how many background apps, location services etc I turn off. Its fine for awhile then starts up again...what does it any idea??
HELP!
Ty
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[assassin10000]

Hey...congrats on 5000 posts!! Hey do you guys know how to cure stuttering Bluetooth?
When I use Spotify on my android phone or ipad I get intermittent stuttering and it won’t go away no matter how many background apps, location services etc I turn off. Its fine for awhile then starts up again...what does it any idea??
HELP!
Ty
ed

Depends on why it's stuttering. Not just the devices may be the problem, could be the internet connection or it may even be related to the Spotify server/stream itself.

 

[Deveraux]

Do they sound muffled and lack in detail?
Maybe test another cable? I really doubt it could make that much of a difference though :/
They could be defective as we've seen some QC issues pop up for the ZSN in this thread (aka the "hole" situation)

I guess yeah there’s a lack in details. But it’s exactly like how I described above. Tried it with a TRN cable too :/

That sounds to me like a non-functioning BA armature(s)...probably defective!
I would strongly advice you to replace them. Several years back, I experienced this same situation, twice! -Not a good feeling at all.

Wow, I got these almost a month back and I don’t know if they’ll allow me a refund now. I’ll try though.

I hope it's not true! But it sounds like you got a bad pair. Who did you order it from? Mine are coming in the next 2-4 weeks (hopefully... Canada Post) so I'll let you know what I think compared to the ES4/ED16.

Got it from GearBest.

Check to see if is wired "out of phase". Mine was, and I was initially a bit disappointed in it. Here is a check:

https://www.audiocheck.net/audiotests_polaritycheck.php

It’s definitely not out of phase. Just checked too.

Just to be sure - have You tried different 2-pin cable (that is in-phase for sure)? Maybe Your ZSN in out-of-phase wired internally?
I do hope You didn`t get dud-BA unit as resoldering 2-pin connector (or just flipping around connector in shell) would be quite easy fix.
Anyway, while I still slightly prefer my properly amped ZS5v1 over ZSN, I do not find ZSN "downgrading" sound such way You do.

I have tried it with the TRN silver cable that I use with my ZS5 too. No noticeable sound difference.

 

[TechnoidFR]

Where did You get that info?
I actually don`t hope it having same DD as ZS10. If it really has same DD, then I will probably skip ZS7. ZS4/ZSN DD are best KZ has put out so far and IMHO can have great potential in hybrid setups.

**** seller
After we have metal house, different tuning.

 

[LaughMoreDaily]

[Time Traveller from 2016]

I bought the ZS3 a couple years ago and I'm just listening to them now. Call me a late bloomer. They have been burning in the whole time. I was into earbuds for a while (waste of time/money) and got distracted from IEM's (my true purpose in audio).

They sing pretty dang good in their own unique way. I love the fit as It's like they're having sex with my ears. The vocals seem a bit cold with the stock cable but the sound is very holographic/3D like. They are light years ahead of the ATR. The sound is bright and may not be good for long sessions. ATR is way better for that with their warm and seductive sound but the ZS3 is way more dynamic and enjoyable to listen to like a real live band. They sound narrow on bad recordings but wide on good ones. I wouldn't say these guys are the best performers. More songs sound average than good. I don't think they're full competenty and I'm surprised people loved them so much back in the day. I prefer the ATR for it's calm warm loving vibe/sound.

I look forward to the ZS4. The fit/sound signature of the ZS3 is mind blowing.

 

[CoiL]

**** seller
After we have metal house, different tuning.

ZS7 has plastic+resin housing+aluminium backplate as far as I know. Not sure though. Anyway, its shell shouldn`t contribute much into sound with this kind of implementation, imo.
What comes to info about sellers - especially yinjoo, which should be banned from head-fi - never trust that info!

 

[Mybutthurts]

Thanks for the quick replies!



I actually was interested into that iem before setting up on Kz, but it was a little too expensive at the time. It does indeed fit my criteria pretty well, though I like the Kz design more. Doing great with classical is pretty much a bonus, as I said I would rather use my various headphones to listen to that, and every other point I mentionned would take priority over it.
Considering that, and the fact that i can only purchase the t2 pro on the site I'm using to purchase audio, how would the t2 pro compare to the as10? You said that the later could be too v-shaped, but I'm actually affraid of the t2 being too airy and maybe boring ( I don't want to find another k702 that I'm already using ). The as10 looks to me like a clear and detailed iem that keeps a musical and warm sound, which is what I might be looking for.
I'm wondering though if both are different ( and complementary ) enough to consider getting both in the future.

AS10 is the one to go for, if you after a KZ iem. Musical and warm as you like.
Loving it on classical music, played on my Fiio dap.

 

[WapeR]

Hi!

I'm looking for new IEMs and I already own the KZ ZS3 (wich sounds great for me for that cheap price) but I want to upgrade and I don't know what I could buy. I'm looking for great IEMs for trap, rock and/or drum&bass.
What is the best KZ for that kind of music? I want to espend <$30

 

[blur.png]

Hi!

I'm looking for new IEMs and I already own the KZ ZS3 (wich sounds great for me for that cheap price) but I want to upgrade and I don't know what I could buy. I'm looking for great IEMs for trap, rock and/or drum&bass.
What is the best KZ for that kind of music? I want to espend <$30

if you like warmer sound & intimate feeling the ES4 looks good
if you like forward sounding & vocal centric iem, the ZSN looks good (though might be a bit overdone on some edm tracks)

then again this is my opinion, someone else might have better opinions, though if you dont mind non-kz, the V80 seems to be another option, since the bass isnt shy at all & tracks sound crisp though its like 2x the price of either the es4/zsn

 

[Leo-rume]

Maybe I will get ZS3E as I wish another pair of ZS4-type shells but in black, so that I can make modded IEM with red-R and black-L channels ;P

The ZS3E is not available in black, only red. I have one on the way

 

[jeromeaparis]

Hi, so I've been watching this thread for a while, and I want to finally get myself an iem from KZ!

It's my first time actually getting higher grade iem than what you get from phones and such, so I want to find the perfect one, suiting my needs and at the same time being a good enough all-rounder to enjoy what a good iem sounds like.
My budget is 50€, so I can pretty much buy any iem Kz currently offers, the question is wich one?

I'm looking for an immersive and deep sound, that would submerge me into the music i'm listening to. I'm not really a bass head, but I listen to pretty much any genre, mainly classical ( I would rather use my headphones for that, but it's still a genre I'll listen to quite a bit ), rock, jpop, dance, funk and a lot of instrumentals.

The point I want it to emphasize are sound clarity, details and a little treble but not too harsh or sibilant. I don't care that much about how wide is the soundstage, but I want the sound imaging and instrument separation to be top-notch ( like being surrounded by the instruments and voices ). I guess, since I want an immersive sound, it has to be a "in your face" and kind of intimate sounding iem.

I initially planned to get the Zs 5, but the newer version seemed to be a let-down, then the Zs6, but sibilance issues, now I'm planning to get the AS10, is it the right one for me? I've heard of new products coming out soon, should I wait for those?

I hope you guys can help me, it's kind of hard to keep up with every product coming out.

Edit: Also I've got a 2.5 balanced output from my dac/amp, can I use it with Kz iems? Do I need a specific cable, if so, which one ?

Yes, I think that my AS10 is better than my ZS6, highs are softer and better overall sound & details.
I do use them and ZSN only with 2.5 balanced cable on my dap Pioneer XDP-30R
I use 2 kind of 2.5 cables:
The KZ silver plated 2.5 balanced cable (thin & silver color) cost= 7 $, that sounds well on ZSN & ED16
The TRN 8 core balanced 2.5mm cable (bigger, the black & silver color) cost= 8$, that sounds well on AS10 and ZS6, better sounding than the KZ 2.5
note I do have too the trn yellow & silver color cable and it sounds too bright, even with the ES4

you'll find them easily on Aliexpress as:

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/TRN-MMCX-2Pin-Connecteur-3-5-2-5-quilibr-8-Core-Cuivre-Argent-Mixte-C-ble/32945443691.html

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-3-5mm-2-5mm-quilibr-e-Argent-Plaqu-Mise-Niveau-C-ble-KZ-2pin-Argent/32896414780.html

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[WapeR]

if you like warmer sound & intimate feeling the ES4 looks good
if you like forward sounding & vocal centric iem, the ZSN looks good (though might be a bit overdone on some edm tracks)

then again this is my opinion, someone else might have better opinions, though if you dont mind non-kz, the V80 seems to be another option, since the bass isnt shy at all & tracks sound crisp though its like 2x the price of either the es4/zsn

Thanks for your fast response.
I think I prefer a V shape sound, buy I don't care if the IEMs are all-terrain, and play a little with the equalizer. I want good IEM for a long time and try to hear things I never heard before with my actual ear/headphones.
I was thinking in the latest KZ ZS10 but if ES4 or ZSN are good enough for me, I have no problem buying them. Also maybe I need a better cable and tips

EDIT: I'll use iPhone Xs Max as source and I prefer BT module for most of the time

 

[darmanastartes]

Yes, I think that my AS10 is better than my ZS6, highs are softer and better overall sound & details.
I do use them and ZSN only with 2.5 balanced cable on my dap Pioneer XDP-30R
I use 2 kind of 2.5 cables:
The KZ silver plated 2.5 balanced cable (thin & silver color) cost= 7 $, that sounds well on ZSN & ED16
The TRN 8 core balanced 2.5mm cable (bigger, the black & silver color) cost= 8$, that sounds well on AS10 and ZS6, better sounding than the KZ 2.5
note I do have too the trn yellow & silver color cable and it sounds too bright, even with the ES4

you'll find them easily on Aliexpress as:

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/TRN-MMCX-2Pin-Connecteur-3-5-2-5-quilibr-8-Core-Cuivre-Argent-Mixte-C-ble/32945443691.html

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-3-5mm-2-5mm-quilibr-e-Argent-Plaqu-Mise-Niveau-C-ble-KZ-2pin-Argent/32896414780.html

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Where did you get those triple flange eartips from?

 

[Nimweth]

if you like warmer sound & intimate feeling the ES4 looks good
if you like forward sounding & vocal centric iem, the ZSN looks good (though might be a bit overdone on some edm tracks)

then again this is my opinion, someone else might have better opinions, though if you dont mind non-kz, the V80 seems to be another option, since the bass isnt shy at all & tracks sound crisp though its like 2x the price of either the es4/zsn

I would agree with that, the V80 is an excellent IEM with a fairly neutral sound and superb bass. It's better than any KZ model I have tried, including the ES3, ZST, ZS10. It's mildly V shaped and very well made.

 

[jeromeaparis]

Where did you get those triple flange eartips from?

I baught them on ebay about 4 years ago and they are discontinued.They are long and
inside diameter is large, about 3.5mm. Some people do not like they sit deeper inside the ear canal.
They sound very good on some KZ earphones, other KZ phones sound better with starlines (or even whirl for ES4 with stock cable)