[astralmind]

   
Dulcimer balanced?
 
I've not heard many earphones with the same amount of bass as the Dulcimer/Banjos. They're like having a subwoofer on each side of your head. Don't get me wrong they do all the other bits well but they have massive bass as well.

Maybe my ATE or Dulcimer are 'off' or my hearing sucks more than I thought but that is the impression I definitely got. Mind you, it was a short listen but the ATE sounded darker, warmer and more 'colored' and as a result, the bass felt more omnipresent (maybe not bass but lower frequencies ? not sub bass ) and masked the highs slightly. 
 
Either way, I still think they both are ridiculously nice for the price tag they command.
 
edit: one description that comes to mind is that the ATEs remind me to some extent of that old amp my father used to have with the analogue loudness switch on it. Flicking it on made the sound heavier and muffled. The ATE don't sound 'bad' like that but do have a bit of that loudness taste that I don't hear in the Tennmak

 

[Vidal]

  Maybe my ATE or Dulcimer are 'off' or my hearing sucks more than I thought but that is the impression I definitely got. Mind you, it was a short listen but the ATE sounded darker, warmer and more 'colored' and as a result, the bass felt more omnipresent (maybe not bass but lower frequencies ? not sub bass ) and masked the highs slightly. 
 
Either way, I still think they both are ridiculously nice for the price tag they command.
 
edit: one description that comes to mind is that the ATEs remind me to some extent of that old amp my father used to have with the analogue loudness switch on it. Flicking it on made the sound heavier and muffled. The ATE don't sound 'bad' like that but do have a bit of that loudness taste that I don't hear in the Tennmak

 
I like the Dulcimer/Banjo and at that price they're a steal. Maybe you need a better seal in the ears, I'm using foams.

 

[astralmind]

   
I like the Dulcimer/Banjo and at that price they're a steal. Maybe you need a better seal in the ears, I'm using foams.

Don't get me wrong, they give out plenty of bass I just think they actually sound better than the ATE (might not be the best thread to bring this up lol)

 

[jbusuego]

Does the diameter of the nozzle of ZST and ZS3 the same? I owned the ZS3 and is thinking of buying the ZST also, much appreciated

 

[Vidal]

Does the diameter of the nozzle of ZST and ZS3 the same? I owned the ZS3 and is thinking of buying the ZST also, much appreciated

 
Not sure if they're exactly the same but I use the same diameter foam tips on both

 

[Comebackboy]

Pretty close Kz ises .75 as opposed to .78 with only .03 of a diffrence others have had luck using the .78's? The standard Zst cable has a bend that angles angles up and over the ear.

Can't fit my friend's rhapsodio cable into the ZSTs. This means I can't order a cable online without trying it on the zst first right. Sigh.

 

[Nachash]

   
No final impression yet, and honestly it is due to me having some difficulty finding the right tips with the ZS3. So from looking at my ZS3, it doesn't seem to have a vent hole; therefore when I push them into my ears it feels like I'm pressurizing my ear. I am still unsure if it's the shape of my ear canals or the shape and design of the ZS3 and the length and width of the stem, but it's really weird. And since I don't want to cause any damage, I don't keep them on long enough to even listen through a song and immediately remove them.

Having the same issue, can you post a picture of the vent holes? I keep having that vacuum thing on my right ear as well

 

[CoiL]

Oh my... KZ having QC issues again...

 

[MuZo2]

ZS3 has vent holes inside

 

[ratex]

Is the KZ ATE ATR wire up fitment only? Or can I wear them with wires down as well?
I hate cables around my ears since I also wear glasses
 

 

[B9Scrambler]

  Is the KZ ATE ATR wire up fitment only? Or can I wear them with wires down as well?
I hate cables around my ears since I also wear glasses
 

 
They can be worn cable down but it's pretty awkward and not ideal. I too wear glasses and don't find cable up use to be an issue with them. Primary reason being a lack of memory wire. The cable is also somewhat thin above the y-split so it really doesn't interfere much.

 

[ratex]

   
They can be worn cable down but it's pretty awkward and not ideal. I too wear glasses and don't find cable up use to be an issue with them. Primary reason being a lack of memory wire. The cable is also somewhat thin above the y-split so it really doesn't interfere much.

Thanks! In that case, is ED9 a good replacement for ATE ATR?
I really don't like over the ear cables =(

 

[B9Scrambler]

  Thanks! In that case, is ED9 a good replacement for ATE ATR?
I really don't like over the ear cables =(

 
You are welcome. I'm not really the best one to answer that question since the ED9 and I have an inconsistent relationship, but the answer is probably yes, haha.

 

[sgl54]

It probably a little hit or miss getting a good fit, depending on how flexible the material the cables ( male ) pins are mounted. I imagine the quality of the fitting they use make a difference as well with mmcx I have some very snug some not, these may end up being the same. I ordered an upgrade cable for the Zst from **** known as E E or easy earphones ( Aliexpress) should be here in a week. It will be interesting to see how they fit as well as any change in sound.

 

[rikk009]

From what you're describing it definitely sounds like it.

Lacking in treble and detail is not the way i would describe the xe800 at all, in fact i would say they are some of their main strengths, mids aside.

They've also got a decent soundstage too and IMO the instrument placement is excellent, particularly on classical music.

The bass definitely opens up with burn in and the treble becomes less harsh as I've A/B'd a well used pair with my new ones and the difference is very noticeable.

I love the xe800s and prefer them to my 4in1s although i rate them highly too.

Do they return on grounds that 'these are fake'. That's hard to prove too.