Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Aug 13, 2018 at 6:57 AM Post #35,476 of 63,960
Are 5 BAs really enough tho?
I'll only buy a new IEM if there's at least 1 BA responsible for every 1000HZ!
We need more BA in series or low volume to produce 1kHz so that overall distortion per signal can be lowered.

First fact when we design an iem.

I think KZ AS10 does this better than Magaosi K5 pro by a huge margin.

Very sensitive and it doesn't produce ringing on cymbal like ES4. Cymbal decay is tight.

Way better than ZS10 but 2kHz is somewhat strong(not like the wrongly represented one in ZS10). Its a narrower band but is strong.

Soundstage is good and a very amazing sound under 100$
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 7:49 AM Post #35,477 of 63,960
We need more BA in series or low volume to produce 1kHz so that overall distortion per signal can be lowered.

First fact when we design an iem.

I think KZ AS10 does this better than Magaosi K5 pro by a huge margin.

Very sensitive and it doesn't produce ringing on cymbal like ES4. Cymbal decay is tight.

Way better than ZS10 but 2kHz is somewhat strong(not like the wrongly represented one in ZS10). Its a narrower band but is strong.

Soundstage is good and a very amazing sound under 100$
Have you received the AS10?
Shipping label got generated yesterday for my order.
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 8:05 AM Post #35,478 of 63,960
Are 5 BAs really enough tho?
I'll only buy a new IEM if there's at least 1 BA responsible for every 1000HZ!

With half of them wired out of phase for a stereo reverb type effect.
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 8:23 AM Post #35,479 of 63,960
Are 5 BAs really enough tho?
I'll only buy a new IEM if there's at least 1 BA responsible for every 1000HZ!

This is right up your alley, CTZ42, 21BA per side, only usd$1800 or so, a bargain
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Aug 13, 2018 at 8:45 AM Post #35,480 of 63,960
Aug 13, 2018 at 9:18 AM Post #35,481 of 63,960
This is right up your alley, CTZ42, 21BA per side, only usd$1800 or so, a bargain
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LOL, and does it sound better than Noble K10? I doubt it.
My dream would be 2DD (graphene) + 1(or 2)BA IEM tuned properly.
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 9:33 AM Post #35,482 of 63,960
LOL, and does it sound better than Noble K10? I doubt it.
My dream would be 2DD (graphene) + 1(or 2)BA IEM tuned properly.

so far they haven't made such claims, so I've no idea.

in fact, the only thing on it is "The CTZ-42 unit (21 independent moving irons on one side) is the flagship king of moving iron headphones coming soon."

and with zero purchases and review, no info whatsoever on it.

my dream would be an IEM that makes me stop buying anything else, I guess? it can be 40 drivers, it can be 1, I don't really care much for that stuff.
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 9:41 AM Post #35,484 of 63,960
my dream would be an IEM that makes me stop buying anything else, I guess? it can be 40 drivers, it can be 1, I don't really care much for that stuff.
Call it dream or not... my modded IT01 made me stop buying any new IEMs ...really, THE ITCH is gone ;P
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 9:43 AM Post #35,485 of 63,960
This is right up your alley, CTZ42, 21BA per side, only usd$1800 or so, a bargain
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That's some crazy stuff right there, they may rain supreme right now in the race for most BA's in one shell! Assuming I'm seeing a channel path for each set of frequencies? That is probably the most engineered iem on the market, makes me wonder how much R&D went into those and how long it took because not only do you need to fit 21 BA's in there you have to get the array right to fine tune. Do you have a shot of the ends of those nozzles? Wondering if it's open, mesh screen or individual holes for the 3 main freqs? Surely they don't weigh more than two three pounds each:smirk:

My retired iPhone 4:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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@CoiL , what all did you modify on the IT01 besides another beautiful face plate:wink:
 
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Aug 13, 2018 at 9:47 AM Post #35,486 of 63,960
That's some crazy stuff right there, they may rain supreme right now in the race for most BA's in one shell! Assuming I'm seeing a channel path for each set of frequencies? That is probably the most engineered iem on the market, makes me wonder how much R&D went into those and how long it took because not only do you need to fit 21 BA's in there you have to get the array right to fine tune. Do you have a shot of the ends of those nozzles? Wondering if it's open, mesh screen or individual holes for the 3 main freqs? Surely they don't weigh more than two three pounds each:smirk:

My retired iPhone 4:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:


you can even see the vid for the config here:
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.20141001.2.717e2187SAo8BS&id=573601636644

looks like a joke, but they probably started with the CTZ-24 and thought "hey, if we arrange this carefully, we can fit almost double the amount of BAs"
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 11:20 AM Post #35,489 of 63,960
Nice. I have all three of these plus the ZS10. I like them all, but for sheer listening pleasure, I prefer the ZS10 to any of the others. THe ZS6 and ED16 are close. The ZS5 for me comes in last. But I am 64 years old and have some HF hearing loss, so your mileage will vary!

My ED16 has great sub-bass. What they do not have is a headache inducing mid bass boost.

I just got my ED16 and its a nice development from my ZS3. Does anyone who owns ZS6 and ED16 care to share how they compare? I'm interested in picking up ZS6.

For example, I am ok with the forward treble and slight sibilance of the ED16, how does the ZS6 compare?

Thank you!
 
Aug 13, 2018 at 2:57 PM Post #35,490 of 63,960
This thing is pretty darn good. Value will be through the roof once the inevitable price drop kicks in.

Slow clap is the best meme in our community.

For respect and for making fun of somebody

Dual purpose

Same goes with AS10

Respect for its tuning and also making fun of plebians iem
 
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