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Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread

  1. Fox2twenty
    High praise. The anecdotal info about foams matches those cool graphs that @hakuzen did. :call_me:
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  2. Wiljen
    I think the big question is where does Kz go next? With being new to aluminum shells, I think they have a lot of experimenting that could be done with re-shelling some of their existing product line. Or do they pick another line to clone in the same way the Zs5/6 copied the style of campfire? I could see them attempting to clone the shape of the Noble since it is easily recognized by sight. I think that part of their choice to use the Campfire design is: from a distance, everyone knows from the look who made that product.
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  3. Fox2twenty
    I like the exaggerated approach, ie more drivers is better.

    The ES6 should come out with dual dynamics and TRIPLE Armatures. :call_me:
  4. Wiljen
    I'd like to see them take a step back and use the shell from the Zs6 with a single full range BA that is really tuned for the shell.
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  5. vector84
    KZ really seems to want to push their own BA manufacturing, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but I don't think they've put a full range BA in anything, at least not any time recently?

    I would love to see what they can do on that front too though, but I get the feeling we're going to be waiting a while - here's hoping :wink:
  6. wastan
    Just doing my part to inform the hype train. Folks were comparing the ZS6 to the K3. K3 is on a different level in terms of SQ from the zs5 which is reportedly only marginally better than the zs6. That $70 does buy you something.
  7. Wiljen

    This matches with what I had said. I said at $50 the Zs6 was good, at $100 there were better choices like the K3 or the Fiio F9. Of those two, my preference is the K3HD.
  8. wastan
    I hope the rumored next gen zs3 is a thing. Love, love, love that shell and how it fits. A BA/DD in that shell, particularly if they did something more thoughtful than just jam a BA in the barrel, would be awesome. Oh, and while we're at it, I want it with the matte finish.
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  9. SomeGuyDude
    KZ needs to do what 1More and Mee did and take a leap up to the $200 area with something designed in-house from the ground up.
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  10. Fox2twenty
    Mee didn't go that route for a while.... Would be cool to see if kz could hack it though.
  11. Fahim Foysal
    Doesn't that kinda defeats the purpose of having multiple BAs? I mean you got a large dd for the lows, the smaller dd for the mids. Why the heck would you need three BAs for the highs?
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
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  12. Fahim Foysal
    They should make a flagship single dd iem
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
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  13. TJK81
    I would be curious if KZ can manufacture some BA's (2,3, or 4 pcs in each shell) only iem... For example in Shure shell (i like the comfortability of the Shure shells).
    And than i would like to see earphones (1DD+1BA) in ZS3 shell, but without any cable, just earphone with BT inside (it could be difficult to manage that thing).
    Will look forward what KZ can, lets say, designed.
  14. HiFiChris Contributor
    My palms were sweaty, knees weak, arms not really heavy
    The lighting was set up already, no spaghetti
    I wasn't really nervous but the surface looked grey and steady, I was ready
    To take photos but I did not notice
    That the zoom was stuck, the barrel didn't slide out
    Until the last shot when I finally fixed it however
    The aperture ring did work this time.
    The session's over, photos taken, yeaow! (But let's save them for later today/tomorrow.)

    So yeah, the green ZS6 arrived today, just as expected. Stunning build quality, especially for the price, just as with the black ones I already have on hand.
    The colour is more like a dark peppermint green or shade of teal. Doesn't look as cool as I imagined it. Dunno, seems like I now need the red one as well.

    Y'er all probably asking yourself "Honey Boo Boo Chris, does it sound any different from the black ZS6 of an early batch you received some time ago?", and my reply is "no".
    Phase and sides of the cable are correct this time unlike with the upgrade cable of the ZS5 I revieweed some time ago where the polarity and sides were inverted. But the sides and phase were already correct with the black ZS6.

    Anyway, as for the tuning: This later batch green ZS6 sounds basically identical to the early batch black ZS6. So yeah.

    What I also noticed (by an ingenious accident (the LH Labs Geek Out IEM 100 that I personally love and always use for frequency response measurements because of its low output impedance has got another output with a claimed high impedance (47 Ohms). The plug I cover it with came loose and I though "hey, that's the perfect device to easily measure the effect a pretty high output impedance has on the sound of any IEM", and so I tested with the ZS6)): increasing the output impedance doesn't change a thing about the midrange or bass. But it affects the nastiness and tames it:

    Effect of the Output Impedance (47 Ohms GO IEM 100).jpg
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
  15. Fox2twenty
    For air movement. Or they could do two different crossovers - the dynamics could do full range split and then the BAs could also do a three way crossover. Idk, I like seeing ridiculous designs. :call_me:

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