Kennerton ODIN, MAGISTER, VALI, Magni, Gjallarhorn, Rögnir, Thridi, Wodan, Thekk, and Thror Discussion.
Jun 21, 2021 at 7:32 AM Post #5,296 of 10,021
@ThanatosVI I compared the two (Rögnir and Solitaire P) shortly for the bass. Here is the piece I used for comparing:



- With Solitaire P bass stands really in the front. For that two things help I think: Instrument separation and depth (also meaning being open back), and the upper mids and treble (especially the extension) being recessed (compared to Rögnir). That makes the bass sit right infornt of you, I mean literally it is infront of everything else. With the piece I sent you, for example, Solitaire P has the bass in the front and Rögnir has the guitar in the front. I think separation is also slightly better even when you close the earcups of Solitaire P with your hands. With Rögnir, instruments are closer to each other in depth and you have, for example, splashy and "not so in the back" cymbals. That takes away from the perceived bass impact, as it is not alone anymore.

- The difference in tuning also brings another question while comparing: Which instrument is your reference while comparing the two? I mean, when you volume equalise them, do you take the bass as the reference, or the lead instrument, the guitar as your reference? If you focus on the guitar and volume equalise and compare, bass on Solitaire P will be bigger than Rögnir. If you focus on the bass, I think bass has slightly more body with Rögnir, but Solitaire P has a slightly tighter, faster bass.

I don't know if all that makes sense.
 
Jun 21, 2021 at 8:10 AM Post #5,297 of 10,021
@ThanatosVI I compared the two (Rögnir and Solitaire P) shortly for the bass. Here is the piece I used for comparing:



- With Solitaire P bass stands really in the front. For that two things help I think: Instrument separation and depth (also meaning being open back), and the upper mids and treble (especially the extension) being recessed (compared to Rögnir). That makes the bass sit right infornt of you, I mean literally it is infront of everything else. With the piece I sent you, for example, Solitaire P has the bass in the front and Rögnir has the guitar in the front. I think separation is also slightly better even when you close the earcups of Solitaire P with your hands. With Rögnir, instruments are closer to each other in depth and you have, for example, splashy and "not so in the back" cymbals. That takes away from the perceived bass impact, as it is not alone anymore.

- The difference in tuning also brings another question while comparing: Which instrument is your reference while comparing the two? I mean, when you volume equalise them, do you take the bass as the reference, or the lead instrument, the guitar as your reference? If you focus on the guitar and volume equalise and compare, bass on Solitaire P will be bigger than Rögnir. If you focus on the bass, I think bass has slightly more body with Rögnir, but Solitaire P has a slightly tighter, faster bass.

I don't know if all that makes sense.

Thx for the reply. That helps. My wallet is happy with that post :wink:

When I "equalise" volume I usually go by lead instrument. Sometimes I have to go by treble since I am quite sensitive to it.
 
Jun 21, 2021 at 9:26 AM Post #5,298 of 10,021
Thx for the reply. That helps. My wallet is happy with that post :wink:

When I "equalise" volume I usually go by lead instrument. Sometimes I have to go by treble since I am quite sensitive to it.
Makes sense. I know your favorite is still the Empy and Rögnir has a quite different tuning.
 
Jun 21, 2021 at 11:16 AM Post #5,299 of 10,021
Felt obligated to share. I'm very impressed so far, and the wood is gorgeous!

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Jun 23, 2021 at 4:39 AM Post #5,302 of 10,021
Hello, bog oak
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Jun 23, 2021 at 10:04 AM Post #5,304 of 10,021
Reading through the comments, I had the impression that Thekk is like an openback version of Rögnir, with a similar tuning. Am I right?
 
Jun 23, 2021 at 12:01 PM Post #5,305 of 10,021
Receive the Rognir!

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My goodness, the Rognir is GOOD with P6 Pro + C9! Excellent coherence, texture, and clarity. You can tell that this is a closed back headphone, but I think Kennerton uses the closed nature really really well to create that holographic feeling, but without making you feel any congested or muddy. Rather, the sound is open and smooth. Love the planar sound!

Will do some more comparisons with D8000 Pro. First quick impression is that these two headphones share the same technical excellency, with D8K pro being slightly better. The Rognir has the edge in warmth and textures. The two headphones really complement each other IMO.

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With the Rognir, I would have happily sold my Diana V2 if it were not a gift from my wife. :sweat_smile:
 
Jun 23, 2021 at 12:31 PM Post #5,306 of 10,021
My goodness, the Rognir is GOOD with P6 Pro + C9! Excellent coherence, texture, and clarity. You can tell that this is a closed back headphone, but I think Kennerton uses the closed nature really really well to create that holographic feeling, but without making you feel any congested or muddy. Rather, the sound is open and smooth. Love the planar sound!

Will do some more comparisons with D8000 Pro. First quick impression is that these two headphones share the same technical excellency, with D8K pro being slightly better. The Rognir has the edge in warmth and textures. The two headphones really complement each other IMO.
Congrats! It is superb, isn't it? A very enjoyable tuning, not sacrificing any detail or clarity, thumpy bass not over-powering mids in any way, sits like a feather pillow on your head.
 
Jun 23, 2021 at 12:39 PM Post #5,307 of 10,021
Receive the Rognir!

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My goodness, the Rognir is GOOD with P6 Pro + C9! Excellent coherence, texture, and clarity. You can tell that this is a closed back headphone, but I think Kennerton uses the closed nature really really well to create that holographic feeling, but without making you feel any congested or muddy. Rather, the sound is open and smooth. Love the planar sound!

Will do some more comparisons with D8000 Pro. First quick impression is that these two headphones share the same technical excellency, with D8K pro being slightly better. The Rognir has the edge in warmth and textures. The two headphones really complement each other IMO.



With the Rognir, I would have happily sold my Diana V2 if it were not a gift from my wife. :sweat_smile:
Congrats. Looks good. Any comments on your recollection with the VC would be welcome!
 
Jun 23, 2021 at 12:45 PM Post #5,308 of 10,021
Congrats! It is superb, isn't it? A very enjoyable tuning, not sacrificing any detail or clarity, thumpy bass not over-powering mids in any way, sits like a feather pillow on your head.
Your comments are spot on! :smile:
 
Jun 23, 2021 at 2:26 PM Post #5,309 of 10,021
Nice! Any imperfections in the wood? Mine has few dings.
Wood is good. Maybe a couple of spots with lacquer imperfections, but nothing critical enough to start exchange process (considering than it would be no problem at all in time or money for me now).
 
Jun 23, 2021 at 4:24 PM Post #5,310 of 10,021
Looking at the graph, 2021 Wodan is nearly the same signature as Thekk ECL-01.

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This is Rögnir vs Wodan 2021:

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Looks like Rögnir has the best overall response, except the slight dip in the low mids. I sometimes add a small bell around that area, sometimes not.

And last, vs HD800s:

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