[sling5s]

so we have to choose analogue input or spdif input? can't have both?
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Oh, ok. I get it. Great, now I have to buy another cabe...-__-

 

[sling5s]

thanks
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sling5s: No. USB does cd quality (44/16).
 
That device will allow Sonic to play hires files via USB since only the JH-3A's coax input supports "hires" (192/24) playback.

 

[Sonic 748i]

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so we have to choose analogue input or spdif input? can't have both?

 

That 3.5mm input is a special one. It can take in both analog and SPDIF digital.

 

[SoupRKnowva]

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so we have to choose analogue input or spdif input? can't have both?

 

you cant have both at the same time, but yes the plug does both kinds of inputs. its the extra pole on the plug that does the spdif. I think it owuld be realy cool if they added a RCA jack for it instead though, its not like the box isnt big enough for it, plus that way we could keep the impdances closer to spec, since i doubt that that pin on the trrs plug is 75 ohms.

 

[sling5s]

I see, not that we have to choose as an option when it's made, but the one input is capable of doing both.
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you cant have both at the same time, but yes the plug does both kinds of inputs. its the extra pole on the plug that does the spdif. I think it owuld be realy cool if they added a RCA jack for it instead though, its not like the box isnt big enough for it, plus that way we could keep the impdances closer to spec, since i doubt that that pin on the trrs plug is 75 ohms.

 

[utdeep]

The mini-usb limitations are the only thing that kept me from pulling the trigger on this deal.  I ended up with just the JH16 Pro instead.
 
Honestly though, isn't CD quality all we need?  I was stretched for reasons not to buy the combo and these were the only ones I could think of:
- mini-usb limitations
- the iems can't be used separately
- low battery life.  Unless this thing can be charged via mini-usb, that's one more AC adapter to carry around.  Many portable amps right now hover around the 50 hour mark.  
- gut feel is that they will improve the new amp/dac before they upgrade the headphones again
- 2 month wait, money leaves pocket now
 
While the upgrade cost of $1099 is $500 more than what I could get for a new system, I can keep that option in mind for the future.
 
It's nice to have something to complain about here...  

 

[Sonic 748i]

 
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The mini-usb limitations are the only thing that kept me from pulling the trigger on this deal.  I ended up with just the JH16 Pro instead.
 
Honestly though, isn't CD quality all we need?  I was stretched for reasons not to buy the combo and these were the only ones I could think of:
- mini-usb limitations
- the iems can't be used separately
- low battery life.  Unless this thing can be charged via mini-usb, that's one more AC adapter to carry around.  Many portable amps right now hover around the 50 hour mark.  
- gut feel is that they will improve the new amp/dac before they upgrade the headphones again
- 2 month wait, money leaves pocket now
 
While the upgrade cost of $1099 is $500 more than what I could get for a new system, I can keep that option in mind for the future.
 
It's nice to have something to complain about here...  

You bring up very valid points but I've always wondered how much better multi-driver IEM's can sound if that crossover can just be taken out and placed in an external amplifier. According to the impressions, the JH-3A unleashes the potential of these custom-spec balanced armatures inside of our very own JH13/16 Pro. That right there outweighs the cons to me.
 

 

[dallan]

So Sonic looks like you need to find a dap with a spdif digital output and dump the Hifiman801.

  Then you can do the 24 bit into the JH-A......... or i guess just bypass that dac and go in analog. 

 

[sling5s]

now, purchasing the jh13/16pro without the jh-3a is like.......
well let's just say, it's what makes it worth having even more.  
 
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You bring up very valid points but I've always wondered how much better multi-driver IEM's can sound if that crossover can just be taken out and placed in an external amplifier. According to the impressions, the JH-3A unleashes the potential of these custom-spec balanced armatures inside of our very own JH13/16 Pro. That right there outweighs the cons to me.
 

 

[Sonic 748i]

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So Sonic looks like you need to find a dap with a spdif digital output and dump the Hifiman801.

  Then you can do the 24 bit into the JH-A......... or i guess just bypass that dac and go in analog. 

My JH-3A and JH16 Pro are going to be my home rig.

 

[immtbiker]

My 13's and multiple dap/amp choices are going to trump my portable needs. That dedicated 16/3a combo is going to be my "serious listening" chair (inside or out) rig. We live in a world that has way too much excess, no?

 

[dallan]

^^X2

 

[sling5s]

 
1. So far, as sound goes, I heard:

1. Better imaging.
2. Details more layered.
3. Bass more impactful?
4. Treble more crystal clear without being more sibilant.
5. Greater soundstage.

 
2. But could someone elaborate and few of these observations:

1. Is the treble more airy?
2. And how much greater is the soundstage?  Does it come close to or exceed HD800?

 

[Sonic 748i]

 
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1. So far, as sound goes, I heard:

1. Better imaging.
2. Details more layered.
3. Bass more impactful?
4. Treble more crystal clear without being more sibilant.
5. Greater soundstage.

 
2. But could someone elaborate and few of these observations:

1. Is the treble more airy?
2. And how much greater is the soundstage?  Does it come close to or exceed HD800?

The bass being more impactful could just well on be because the JH16's have more bass emphasis if you're used to the JH13 Pro's sound signature or never heard that much bass before. But, I love how I've heard someone else also said the treble emphasis and clarity improved without hurting the upper mids. Where sibilance lives.
 

 

[sling5s]

soundstage?  how much greater? I would love it if it approached the hd800 level.
 
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The bass being more impactful could just well on be because the JH16's have more bass emphasis if you're used to the JH13 Pro's sound signature or never heard that much bass before. But, I love how I've heard someone else also said the treble emphasis and clarity improved without hurting the upper mids. Where sibilance lives.