[powertoold]

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Originally Posted by subtle /img/forum/go_quote.gif The one I mainly see jumping to conclusions here is you, so eager to try and play devil's advocate and be that "cool one" that has to do the opposite of everyone else to stand out from the crowd. Your comments essentially imply that Alex, an individual that has earned his excellent reputation around here for being polite, knowledgeable, and providing an extremely high level of quality in his work, is lying about all of this. What exactly does he stand to gain from doing that? Please explain.

Well, Alex heard the story from the customer. It is possible that the customer is biased, so it'd be nice to hear JL's story.

 

[Sovkiller]

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Originally Posted by subtle /img/forum/go_quote.gif "....Your comments essentially imply that Alex, an individual that has earned his excellent reputation around here for being polite, knowledgeable, and providing an extremely high level of quality in his work, is lying about all of this. What exactly does he stand to gain from doing that? Please explain...."

He will gain nothing, but you are going a little too far as well, as Alex has never said that he had contacted JL to find out what was the real truth, or their side of the story, at least he had not said so, so probably he has only the customer side of the story, (unless he had called JL) but now knowing that there is another side of the story...

BTW I do not care who is right or wrong, nor who in guilty or innocent, and I have nothing against one or the other, to me both are very nice dealers till now, but I was just trying to put things in perspective according to the facts we have seen here till now...

 

[Ragonix]

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Originally Posted by sacd lover /img/forum/go_quote.gif Why would you contact Jena Labs? You appear to have nothing to do with either party.

Because he wants to see the fireworks. Sit back and get some popcorn.

 

[subtle]

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Originally Posted by mrarroyo /img/forum/go_quote.gif However, people can have their opinion and should be able to express it without being pushed into a corner. All Morph201 said was that there are two sides to an story, which is true of any story. So please lets not put words into someones mouth nor attack if you do not agree.

People are certainly entitled to their opinion, however when they present it with a complete lack of tact they should expect replies such as these.

I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to take him seriously after labeling everyone in the thread "a bunch of wild monkeys"?

 

[jinp6301]

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Originally Posted by Morph201 /img/forum/go_quote.gif **As the World Turns.. sheesh I have been in contact with the owner(s) of JenaLabs, and I would advise everyone to at least hear BOTH sides of the story and not run to the assumption that JenaLabs is at total fault. I sympathize with the R10 owner if everything he said is completely accurate, but I also find it VERY hard to believe that a reputable company such as JenaLabs would conduct themselves in a less than professional mannner. JenaLabs deals with equipment worth a lot more than R10s, do you honestly think they would risk their name for a pair of headphones?? If what JenaLabs has told me is true it's truly SICKENING that someone would try to damage their reputation in such a manner!!

so what did jena labs say?

 

[swt61]

I haven't come to any conclusion yet, but it's pretty clear the phones were mangled by someone. Whether that was JenaLabs, the owner of the phones himself or some other party we're not aware of yet we just don't know for sure.

I do know Alex's character pretty well though, and I'm pretty sure that he believes the owner, or I doubt he'd post about it.

So at this juncture I'm leaning toward believing that JenaLabs is at fault. That doesn't make it true, and there may well be something I'm not aware of. But until JenaLabs supplies us with some solid information to make us doubt this, I'll continue to give credit to Alex's story.

We all have biases, and it's silly to pretend we can be completely unbiased after hearing a side to a story like this. Admitting that you jumped the gun after being proven wrong is also something I have no problem doing. So if indeed JenaLabs has a credible side to this story that proves my bias wrong I'm more than willing to apologize for my haste.

So...Let's here from you JenaLabs & R-10 owner.

 

[Morph201]

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Originally Posted by mrarroyo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hey guys lets back off a bit. I own three of Alex re-cable jobs and I am very happy with the work and sound and I am considering sending a 4th headphone to get re-cabled. However, people can have their opinion and should be able to express it without being pushed into a corner. All Morph201 said was that there are two sides to an story, which is true of any story. So please lets not put words into someones mouth nor attack if you do not agree. Just my thoughts.

Wow! Someone with intelligence....

Thanks!

 

[Morph201]

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Originally Posted by sacd lover /img/forum/go_quote.gif Buying their products does not make this situation "your business". Furthermore, unless you have spoken with the owner of the headphones as well it appears YOU are the one jumping to conclusions based on one side of the story.

It is my business, that's all YOU need to know..

 

[aaron313]

All I can say is that I am truly honored to have my headphones recabled by Alex.

 

[swt61]

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Originally Posted by Morph201 /img/forum/go_quote.gif It is my business, that's all YOU need to know..

Sorry, you don't get to play all CIA secret spy guy, and not give out info you may or may not have, and then tell us we're being hasty in our opinions. It doesn't work that way. Speaks to credibility my friend.

 

[LostOne.TR]

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Originally Posted by subtle /img/forum/go_quote.gif People are certainly entitled to their opinion, however when they present it with a complete lack of tact they should expect replies such as these. I'm not sure how anyone is supposed to take him seriously after labeling everyone in the thread "a bunch of wild monkeys"?

It's not like the lack of tack was subtle. I completely agree.

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Originally Posted by Morph201 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Wow! Someone with intelligence.... Thanks!

I also believe that there's two sides to the story.

 

[penger]

I just want to hear both sides.

 

[Morph201]

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Originally Posted by swt61 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Sorry, you don't get to play all CIA secret spy guy, and not give out info you may or may not have, and then tell us we're being hasty in our opinions. It doesn't work that way. Speaks to credibility my friend.

Ok, I have an email from Michael and Jennifer stating, in full, the events as they saw it. I would copy & paste it into this thread, but I feel I should not overstep Michael and Jennifer... I believe they will post their response soon enough. I'm not taking sides in this, just trying to remain objective and withhold any judgement until both sides have spoken. The attack on their credibility was launched, so they should be allowed to defend it, that's all.

 

[jrosenth]

Morph201, who do you work for?

The only reason I ask is that I'd really like to factor in that affiliation for upcoming purchases.

 

[swt61]

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Originally Posted by Morph201 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ok, I have an email from Michael and Jennifer stating, in full, the events as they saw it. I would copy & paste it into this thread, but I feel I should not overstep Michael and Jennifer... I believe they will post their response soon enough. I'm not taking sides in this, just trying to remain objective and withhold any judgement until both sides have spoken. The attack on their credibility was launched, so they should be allowed to defend it, that's all.

Fair enough, I too believe they should probably be the ones to tell their side, and I look forward to reading it.