Jade II Discussion
Apr 3, 2019 at 12:46 PM Post #227 of 472

Nice presentation and impressions. When you mentioned the lack of soundstage, relative to other phones, etc., and the bass, I was wondering if this was new out of box or burned in. Per the last part of the video you state that it is out of box. I assume now you have well over 100 hours and I would be curious on further comparisons to your first impressions. For me, I found that at 100 plus hours, it opened up and the bass was well textured and pretty natural.

I look forward to your opinion on changes, related to the time you have had the Jade II. I noted that on the, at the time, expensive Ultrasone limited edition 9, that the headband was the same as the headphones that sold for 350 and wanted something more. Well years later it is still going strong and feels comfortable. Yes, I like the headband on the Focal Utopia, beautiful but would be glad to pay less for them if they made a less expensive headband. :^)
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 12:48 PM Post #228 of 472
Nice presentation and impressions. When you mentioned the lack of soundstage, relative to other phones, etc., and the bass, I was wondering if this was new out of box or burned in. Per the last part of the video you state that it is out of box. I assume now you have well over 100 hours and I would be curious on further comparisons to your first impressions. For me, I found that at 100 plus hours, it opened up and the bass was well textured and pretty natural.

I look forward to your opinion on changes, related to the time you have had the Jade II. I noted that on the, at the time, expensive Ultrasone limited edition 9, that the headband was the same as the headphones that sold for 350 and wanted something more. Well years later it is still going strong and feels comfortable. Yes, I like the headband on the Focal Utopia, beautiful but would be glad to pay less for them if they made a less expensive headband. :^)

I'm not the guy in the video, by the way. :p
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 12:50 PM Post #229 of 472
Apr 3, 2019 at 6:36 PM Post #231 of 472
Here are some images from the Phoenix, AZ show Sat. before last. People kept coming back to listen to the Jade II. One of the guys kept bringing his buddies back and said, "you have to hear these!". It is good to have fun while listening to music.


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Apr 3, 2019 at 7:34 PM Post #232 of 472
Hello everyone,
This may of been brought up already at some point. but having seen a Jade 2 review on youtube. the reviewer mentioned that it hurt his hearing/ear and created lots of pressure where he lost hearing for a breif moment after using them.
This has caused some concern with me as i was intending to buy a Jade 2 set after demo'ing them at an audio show at the hifiman booth and enjoying them very much.

Has anyone experienced this ? is this a concern hifiman has made a statement on ? faulty batches?
Not a real issue, I did tempt fate by using them while on sitting on the floor (helps with back pain as well, to lie down in a very flat and hard surface), and I couldn't reproduce any issues

I know I came off a little harsh in regards to complaining about the volume and the bass. I wasn't used to a sound of this caliber in my own home. These are so effortless. Some electric guitar plucks sound out of this world. Depth, 3d image.

Told ya, their magic comes slower. Sometimes, especially first thin in the morning, I also need more volume to pump me up, but late at night, there are few things as sweet and impressive as the delicate sound of a good headphne at quiet volumes :)
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 7:50 PM Post #233 of 472
To be fair at the audio show i went to when i saw they had the Jade 2 up for demo i had to grab a seat and try them... *cough* I was there for 45min... *cough*
It's so hard to decide between the Jade 2 or the Arya... but i have until summer to decide.
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 8:02 PM Post #234 of 472
To be fair at the audio show i went to when i saw they had the Jade 2 up for demo i had to grab a seat and try them... *cough* I was there for 45min... *cough*
It's so hard to decide between the Jade 2 or the Arya... but i have until summer to decide.

I also have the Arya, if I can help with any advice.

@dusty.ro who loves his empyreans said that he finds arya to be even better :)

He didn't like Jade II quite as much though, the two are different, and tuned very differently, Arya has more bass, and a more typical sound, where Jade II has a lighter sound with an even more neutral bass
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 8:12 PM Post #235 of 472
I also have the Arya, if I can help with any advice.
YES!
I asked in the Arya thread but im not sure anyone has had both.

I'm stuck deciding between the Arya and Jade 2. I liked how wide and open and clean the Jade 2 sounded. but i liked how versatile the Arya was. obviously the Arya is a planar, so i can plug into any amp, detachable cables, use DAPs..

but the Arya also had a relaxed and enjoyable sound, were as for the Jade 2 i felt maybe a bit too clean? if that makes sense lol. i'd say way cleaner sounding than my DT1990 Pro for sure.
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 8:12 PM Post #236 of 472
To be fair at the audio show i went to when i saw they had the Jade 2 up for demo i had to grab a seat and try them... *cough* I was there for 45min... *cough*
It's so hard to decide between the Jade 2 or the Arya... but i have until summer to decide.

I owned both HE1K V2 (which Arya is essentially that) and Jade2 at the sametime, after side by side listening, sold HE1KV2 the next day. Not even close. So much more detail, more layering in soundstage, the HE1KV2 sounded muddy in comparison.
Caveat being I'm listening out of full ifi pro-stack.
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 8:30 PM Post #237 of 472
I owned both HE1K V2 (which Arya is essentially that) and Jade2 at the sametime, after side by side listening, sold HE1KV2 the next day. Not even close. So much more detail, more layering in soundstage, the HE1KV2 sounded muddy in comparison.
Caveat being I'm listening out of full ifi pro-stack.
I know what you mean,
At the booth which i was the only one at (i can't belive nobody else showed up for like 2hrs at the hifiman booth! lol)
they had the Susvara, Jade 2, Arya, Ananda, 1000v2 and 1000se.
They were all plugged into the Nirvana amp from Auris audio, (except the Jade 2, they had their own) and i got to "hot swap" cans with the same songs playing.

It was awesome, it really gave me a clear picture of what sound each can brought to the table... my end conclusion was that out of them all, i liked the Susvara(although not efficient, power hungry and way too expensive), Arya and Jade 2. the rest were... too expensive for what they did or just werent that good in relation to the others.

obviously i can't afford the susvara, so i have to settle for either the Jade 2 or Arya. :frowning2: its a difficult decision as they both brought something to the table which i can't get with my DT1990 pro and ADI-2 DAC. i'm hoping to add to my collection the missing piece... for now :wink: (always room for more.)
 
Apr 3, 2019 at 9:27 PM Post #238 of 472
I know what you mean,
At the booth which i was the only one at (i can't belive nobody else showed up for like 2hrs at the hifiman booth! lol)
they had the Susvara, Jade 2, Arya, Ananda, 1000v2 and 1000se.
They were all plugged into the Nirvana amp from Auris audio, (except the Jade 2, they had their own) and i got to "hot swap" cans with the same songs playing.

It was awesome, it really gave me a clear picture of what sound each can brought to the table... my end conclusion was that out of them all, i liked the Susvara(although not efficient, power hungry and way too expensive), Arya and Jade 2. the rest were... too expensive for what they did or just werent that good in relation to the others.

obviously i can't afford the susvara, so i have to settle for either the Jade 2 or Arya. :frowning2: its a difficult decision as they both brought something to the table which i can't get with my DT1990 pro and ADI-2 DAC. i'm hoping to add to my collection the missing piece... for now :wink: (always room for more.)

I was there too at the Montreal Audio Show and spent most of my time at the Hifiman and Audioville's dream headphones tables. I wish I had listened to the Arya. My expectations for the Jade II were very high, since the original Jade were my favorite headphones for their ultra sweet, detailed and open sound. The build quality was artisanal and problematic, but I regret selling them and was hoping for the Jade II to be a continuity in sound. FWIW I was disappointed by the Jade II. They sounded too clean and polite for me. Neutral, detailed, fast but nowhere near as fun or sweet like the original. Perhaps it was the amp or meet conditions. I would still be interested to listen to them out of a tube setup.
 
Apr 4, 2019 at 3:18 AM Post #239 of 472
Hello everyone,
This may of been brought up already at some point. but having seen a Jade 2 review on youtube. the reviewer mentioned that it hurt his hearing/ear and created lots of pressure where he lost hearing for a breif moment after using them.
This has caused some concern with me as i was intending to buy a Jade 2 set after demo'ing them at an audio show at the hifiman booth and enjoying them very much.

Has anyone experienced this ? is this a concern hifiman has made a statement on ? faulty batches?
Hi there,

We have posted a video about this issue, here is the link:


Hope it helps. :)
 
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Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 AM Post #240 of 472
I was there too at the Montreal Audio Show and spent most of my time at the Hifiman and Audioville's dream headphones tables. I wish I had listened to the Arya. My expectations for the Jade II were very high, since the original Jade were my favorite headphones for their ultra sweet, detailed and open sound. The build quality was artisanal and problematic, but I regret selling them and was hoping for the Jade II to be a continuity in sound. FWIW I was disappointed by the Jade II. They sounded too clean and polite for me. Neutral, detailed, fast but nowhere near as fun or sweet like the original. Perhaps it was the amp or meet conditions. I would still be interested to listen to them out of a tube setup.
Same!! Despite that though i did very much enjoy the jade 2. You could of tried the arya!!! I asked the guys at the audioville booth and the arya was set up in the back room with even more headphones and higher end cans and gear. It just you needed to be escorted behind the desk and into the room and watched for a bit lol.
To be fair the room was much better as it was way quieter. Its a tough decision between the arya and jade 2 for me... do you guys know if the jade 2 is 100% made to go with the hifiman amp it comes with? Or could i use another electrostatic amp? Maybe from stax?
 

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