Jade II Discussion
Apr 4, 2019 at 7:08 AM Post #241 of 472
Same!! Despite that though i did very much enjoy the jade 2. You could of tried the arya!!! I asked the guys at the audioville booth and the arya was set up in the back room with even more headphones and higher end cans and gear. It just you needed to be escorted behind the desk and into the room and watched for a bit lol.
To be fair the room was much better as it was way quieter. Its a tough decision between the arya and jade 2 for me... do you guys know if the jade 2 is 100% made to go with the hifiman amp it comes with? Or could i use another electrostatic amp? Maybe from stax?

I just bought a Stax SRM-1mk2 amplifier, and I'm told that it should work with the Jade II. I'll post impressions this weekend.
I'll also be selling it almost right after since I'm realizing that getting into electrostatic headphones can get me down the rabbit hole pretty fast.

I decided to buy a modded HD-800 and call it quits on finding that last headphone that I need for classical and instrumental music. :p
 
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Apr 4, 2019 at 8:31 AM Post #242 of 472
I just bought a Stax SRM-1mk2 amplifier, and I'm told that it should work with the Jade II. I'll post impressions this weekend.
I'll also be selling it almost right after since I'm realizing that getting into electrostatic headphones can get me down the rabbit hole pretty fast.

I decided to buy a modded HD-800 and call it quits on finding that last headphone that I need for classical and instrumental music. :p
Alice in wonderland has always been my favourite bedtime story / fairytale since i was a child of like 5 lol. so i'm always going down the rabbit hole regardless of what hobby i get into.

That being said, Stax amps can be cheaper than the amp that comes with the jade 2. if i can buy a pair of brand new jade 2 headphones without the amp, it might save some cash and i can buy a smaller footprint electrostatic amp.. if not... then i guess i'll get either the Arya or Sony Z7m2 lol... (maybe audeze LCD2C or LCDX)
 
Apr 4, 2019 at 2:10 PM Post #243 of 472
With the Hifiman Jade II combo... I generally had to open the volume knob past the 2 o'clock position to get to what I call normal... but... on some Chesky music, I have to open it all the way.

Now, I have a Auralic Vega DAC that I always keep wide open. But, my amp... Schiit Mjolnir 2... I keep on Low Gain and never open the volume knob past the 12 o'clock position driving my Audeze LCD3F's... most of the time it plays really well at 11 o'clock on Low Gain. If I put it in High Gain, I can't open it past the 9 o'clock position. So, I consider my front end to be normal output.

When playing the Jade II amp wide open, I don't hear any noise... dead silent background.

Here's my review of the Jade II combo from the tour loaner...

https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/hifiman-jade-ii-electrostatic-amp-and-headphone-combo-review.23663/
 
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Apr 4, 2019 at 5:45 PM Post #245 of 472
Apr 4, 2019 at 11:31 PM Post #246 of 472
I just bought a Stax SRM-1mk2 amplifier, and I'm told that it should work with the Jade II. I'll post impressions this weekend.
I'll also be selling it almost right after since I'm realizing that getting into electrostatic headphones can get me down the rabbit hole pretty fast.

I decided to buy a modded HD-800 and call it quits on finding that last headphone that I need for classical and instrumental music. :p

Can you resist? Once you get to know that there is something very good, they will be keeping haunting you. You won't be satiated. That's is just human nature.
A HD-800 is a good headphone, I am not sure the sound layering of that headphone is good enough to keep up with other flagship headphones.
 
Apr 5, 2019 at 5:52 AM Post #247 of 472
Can you resist? Once you get to know that there is something very good, they will be keeping haunting you. You won't be satiated. That's is just human nature.
A HD-800 is a good headphone, I am not sure the sound layering of that headphone is good enough to keep up with other flagship headphones.
Its not able to anymore, now brands are making cans cheaper that can do the same or better. Hd800 is old stock now a days.
 
Apr 5, 2019 at 7:04 AM Post #248 of 472
Can you resist? Once you get to know that there is something very good, they will be keeping haunting you. You won't be satiated. That's is just human nature.
A HD-800 is a good headphone, I am not sure the sound layering of that headphone is good enough to keep up with other flagship headphones.

It may not be, but compared to the Jade II I just couldn't get over the poor build quality and lack of bass punch. Every time I put the Jade II on my head I would be worried that something would snap. I also wanted something with a really wide soundstage. :p
 
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Apr 5, 2019 at 3:51 PM Post #250 of 472
I just plugged in the Jade II to the Stax SRM-1mk2.. it indeed works.
No reason it shouldn't. Been using them back and forth with a high end tube electrostatic amp that biases at 580 and used the Voce on the Jade II amp.

I don't see any issues with the headband on the Jade II. It has been stretched a lot over other peoples heads and zero issues.
 
Apr 5, 2019 at 4:20 PM Post #251 of 472
It may not be, but compared to the Jade II I just couldn't get over the poor build quality and lack of bass punch. Every time I put the Jade II on my head I would be worried that something would snap. I also wanted something with a really wide soundstage. :p
How would you compare Jade II with Hifiman amp vs Stax SRM-1mk2 ?
Is difference small? Perhaps, apple vs orange?
 
Apr 8, 2019 at 10:19 PM Post #252 of 472
First and foremost I would like to thank Hifiman for this home audition. It's a pleasure to spend time with gear before spending your money on stuff that you might sell and lose money on the minute you open that box. Onto the review!


HIFIMAN JADE II

Build quality - I like the stealth all black look on the amp section and headphones. Understated, yet the amp feels like a Panzer tank of metal design. The headphones feel semi-premium. Some metal and a lot of plastic. I'm not a fan of this plastic. It doesn't scream "premium" but it looks nice, I guess.

Comfort - Oh, wow, the comfort and weight of the headphone are absolutely great! Never felt any kind of fatigue. The cups are super long and big that I never had any fitment issues.

Sound - This system isn't meant for loud listening because it doesn't sound it's best. But late-night, low volume sounds like a group of Angels singing and floating around your head, not Devils, because, Devils are bad and Angels are good lol. Seriously, for this money that this unit costs it starts showing you what this hobby is capable of. Soundstage is nice and wide and deep and surrounds your head with blissful tones. I love it but, I miss my loudness "volume addict" here. Bass, the bass isn't quite up to snuff for me "bass head" here. It's nice and tight but it doesn't leave much in the impact department. That's the only thing I don't like about the sound.

Clear sound like this window below.

Listening to this system is like looking outside on a nice and sunny day and taking it all in and relaxing.

Guitar plucks and all of the sounds from my choice of rock music have a nice depth to the notes, vocals sound beautiful! Female/male I enjoy all of it. The imaging gets outside of the head sometimes, not as much as the Susvara, but I get about 60% there. I won't get into the detail of what artist/songs I played because my list is about 13,000 strong plus. I did revisit a lot of favorites and they sounded wonderful. I even heard "honestly" a lot of stuff in my music that wasn't generated using my former Focal Utopia "shocked" the headphone is SUPER fast. Every instrument and singers have their own place in the imaging. You hear everything so freaking clearly. I heard a higher level of sound "Estat" at Canjam, but this is a wonderful starting point for people who don't want to pay $10k plus.

Conclusion - I love this system for a wonderful night time listening and relaxing experience. For some reason, during the day I need some oomph in my music and Estat won't provide that. This is the first Estat system I auditioned at home.

Thank you for reading guys/girls and THANK YOU HIFIMAN! It was a pleasure. I even had friends listen to this and they were floored by the sound quality. I love Hifiman sound, I guess!
 
Apr 9, 2019 at 4:48 PM Post #254 of 472
I'm also doing a side-by-side comparison of this and the HD 800. The Jade II very much sounds like a sophisticated version of the HD 800.
The Jade II has a punchier sub-bass, less resonance and smoother highs. The Jade II makes me feel like I'm more immersed in the song, but I feel that the HD 800 has better technicalities.

I also think that the Jade II is more comfortable.
 
Apr 10, 2019 at 10:39 AM Post #255 of 472
I’d like to give a shout out to HiFiMAN for lending me this system as a loaner.

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The Jade II headphone is the first electrostat that I’ve listened to. Previous to the Jade II I owned the HiFiMAN HEKv2. I thoroughly enjoyed its pleasant sound signature, but after a while I felt that something was lacking: notes sounded too soft for my tastes, too rounded and too laid back that kept me from feeling engaged. I felt like I was in a dream while I was listening to the HEKv2, but I didn’t like it. Unfortunately there was also some peak going on in the treble region that prevented me from really enjoying the music.

I can safely say that the Jade II has improved on the HEKv2 in almost every way, but let me get to the specifics of why the Jade II stands out to me:

Build quality and comfort – the build quality of this headphone is a blessing and a curse. The Jade II headphone is mainly made of plastic and the headphone uses the newly designed HiFiMAN headband system. I find that this headband isn’t ideal for the longevity of this headphone – I almost always hear the headband squeaking whenever I stretch it out. It makes me feel that I’m dealing with a cheaper, more fragile product.

However I think that this material was chosen in consideration to the headphones weight, which is extremely light. I’d also like to point out that I have an average head and I barely had to adjust the headband in order to get an almost glove-like fit. It feels like the headphone conforms to the shape of my head which is a really nice touch, like a plug-and-play type of feel.

Sound – if I were to sum up the sound of the Jade II headphone I’d say that it has an effortless and engaging presentation. I feel like I’m listening to the music as a whole, rather than each part of the spectrum being separated. It’s like each part of the sound spectrum is in balance with the other, blended and liquid-like.

The treble is beautiful. It’s smooth yet extremely extended. This is probably the best treble presentation that I’ve ever listened to. Zero fatigue, zero grain and one-hundred percent on point. I also think that the sound-stage capability of the Jade II gives the treble its omnipresence. The sound-stage is taller than it is wide, but it also has great depth. I can hear articulation from instruments in the high registers because I’m almost forced to hear it, but in a good way.

The mid-range is clear and coherent. It is full, and voices sound very distinct from the instruments. I feel like nothing is lost when the Jade II is presented with complex music. However, I feel congestion when the volume is turned up a lot – this is where I think distortion does become present. I believe that this headphone performs at its finest at moderate to low listening levels.

The speed and attack of this headphone is superb. Everything is given room to breathe, to show off and then go away into a black background. This also lends itself to the bass which packs quite a punch. Although the quantity of the bass is lacking I believe it more than makes up for it in other areas such as attack, decay and texture. From what I’ve heard electrostatic headphones lack a lot of grunt in this area and it seems to me that the Jade II has put itself on top of the competition with its bass performance. It’s there and it’s palpable.

Concerns – other than the build quality, I feel some may not like, what I feel, is the more intimate presentation of the Jade II. There are also times when sounds are so close that they lack definition and texture – mainly in the lower mid-range. Lastly, I do not think that the amplifier that this headphone is packaged with is worth it. I plugged this headphone into a Stax SRM-1mk2 and it sounded nearly identical. However, the amp IS built very well. Finally, for some reason I would be concerned about the re-selling price point on this headphone and whether or not there will be takers for it but hopefully these reviews will shed some light on this headphone!

Thanks again, HiFiMAN!
 

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