joelongwood
Keeper of the 'Phones
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Snufkin, I like your style! Your honesty is refreshing.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Originally Posted by Snufkin Yet without some kind of proof that a writer has indeed used the equipment that he states or actually listened to the music stated, how do we know they actually have such equipment or listened to such music? I could say I have *insert best CD player in the world* plugged into a *best amplifier in the world* with *most expensive interconnects in the world* and I listened to *a hundred CDs of varying genre* - it'd be then up to you to prove I didn't. The problem with stating exact equipment is there's always some idiot who chimes up with "oooh, you didn't hear a difference because you have the BLACK version of the CD player and you didn't listen to a particular CD by some obscure band... if you'd done that the differences would have been HUGE!!" I wasn't listening for preferences, I was listening for differences. As I've said before - if the differences were indeed as great as some people have stated, it really shouldn't have mattered what kind of music I was listening to or what equipment I was using - silly extremes aside. I can hear the difference between, for example, the HD600 and HD650 straight from an ipod. Likewise I can hear the difference between the DT860 and the DT880 straight from AC97 onboard audio. I could list more examples if you like. If you'd bothered to check my profile you'd see the range of equipment I have at my disposal as well as the types of music I listen do. I do more than "one song" tests and I try different sources - I assume (obviously incorrectly) that people who read my reviews know this. I was listening for differences, I listened well - I got other people to listen as well, the results were conclusive regardless of equipment so I didn't bother listing my equipment. In addition - the weight differences between the old and new aren't big enough to easily be able to tell the difference blind. I'd notice after an hours constant use I guess, but otherwise I couldn't pick which was which based on weight - not when swapping back and forth fairly frequently. We even swapped earpads at one stage just in case one was more "scratchy" than the other. Besides, even if I could, I was doing my best to be impartial - I was actually convinced that I would hear a difference after all the hype. |
Originally Posted by Snufkin It's funny how when someone comes along to say negative things people try to pick flaws in the testing process - in most cases I agree with being really particular. The apparent "huge" differences between the old and new versions of this headphone shouldn't require such minute details - I should have been able to tell the difference easily. For the sake of testing, I did a few experiments to test any possible psychological "you just didn't WANT there to be a difference" effects, but the results were always the same. Think about it people, if anything I should be raving on about how much better the new version is - it would mean more sales. |
Originally Posted by morphsci *snippety* |
Originally Posted by morphsci At this time I do not know if there are differences bewteen the two headphones since I have not heard the MS-2i. Also the magnitude of differences is a subjective measure, the same absolute difference may seem large to one person and small to another so that should always be viewed in that context |
Originally Posted by Snufkin ... Long Boring Rationalization |
Originally Posted by morphsci Dude, read my lips. I do not care how you do your review, that's up to you. What it means to me is up to me, get over it. It's not rocket science, move on. |
Originally Posted by Snufkin Good god man, it wasn't a review! Figure it out already! Your lack of understanding this issue is truly astounding. It's not rocket science but it may as well be to you it seems. There's not much more I can do to get it through to you, your idea of "what it means to me" must confuse you often when everyone else is on a different page. Here's some help; review (see def. 4) - what my comments were NOT. vs comparison what my comments WERE. |
Originally Posted by morphsci Sigh ... OK your COMPARISON is useless to me. I am not confused at all about my preferences since I do not care if they agree or do not agree with anyone else's preferences. I guess that is one of the few advantages of getting older Actually a standard review is usually a comparison by reference and yours was a comparsion by contrast see THIS link. |
Originally Posted by crazyfrenchman27 This exchange is pointless. Snufkin provided his qualified and valued impressions in comparing the MS2i to the MS2. I personally don't care that you don't care for his impressions; they were valuable to me, nonetheless. Let's hear other people's impressions now. I'd especially like to hear a comparison between the SR325i and the MS2 or MS2i. |