madbull
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You can eliminate the echo by fixing the room size, I guess. I haven't tried your settings yet.
Hi,
Since you have had success with it, would you mind posting your settings. Of course it will be different for every person and their system, but I'm curious to see one that's worked out. Perhaps we can use it as reference point or baseline for our own adjustments. Thanks.
The most natural and neutral crossfeed to my ears so far (tried Redline, head-fit, Jriver's native crosfeed plugin, sheppi, Isone Pro, ...):
If you want to push the sound a bit in front of you (but don't wanna colour it too much), I would advise to set Distance around 0.30 m (all other parameters stays the same as they are prepared for manipulation with the Distance knob)... That's the best you can get without influencing source quality too much IMHO.
This was good sounding settings. It moves the sound in front of you without messing with the tonality too much especially with 0.30 distance.
This is the best that I was able to achieve with TB Isone (and any other plugin trying to let headphones sound more natural)... When setting the distance to zero, I can hardly spot any negative degradation of the sound (but this is intended for crossfeed only!). When setting it to 0.30 m, it's somehow the best compromise between quality and spatial effect (you can try to move it somewhere up to 0.50 m that should be "ok" as well). But someone can have different opinion, that's absolutely normal and correct I would say!
I'm liking the settings more and more. The J River crossfeed sound very natural as well, but it doesn't move the image in front of you like this settings does.
I must be lucky and have an average sized head/ears but the default settings work really really well for me I only tweaked the distance a little and set the frequency preset to "flat".
Glad you like it, really! 0.30 m came up from intensive testing -> everything sounds just "right" or "in place" in comparison with lower values AND it doesn't colour the sound too much as higher values does. You can always try to experiment with 0.25 - 0.35 and come up with the best value for distance out of them for you (we are talking about very subtle changes of course).
In case you are curious -> Jriver's crossfeed ("headphones" plugin) set at "subtle" is also really good but it sounds a little bit "flat" or "sterile" to my ears and with some specific songs it doesn't work as good as it should. Higher settings are not as good as subtle is. It is all because Jriver offers a pure crossfeed only. TB Isone is quite more progressive as it delivers a VERY natural crossfeed with a little spatial effect (subjectively) even when set to work as crossfeed only (0.00 m distance).
You can still try to use Jriver's together with some other plugin for more spatial feeling (sheppi, ...). BUT it cannot beat TB Isone with my settings IMHO if you want natural but still neutral sound! However, I am still open to testing new things and as soon as something EVEN better appears I am ready to try it
Guys, you must calibrate the HRTF settings or else to be downright honest, you aren't getting 'natural' imaging at all.
Isone is designed to emulate nearfield speakers at 30 degrees, not really as a pure crossfeed.