[skootb]

Which iDSD? The Pro?

yep, pro

I don't see it after the beta firmware update

 

[iFi audio]

yep, pro

I don't see it after the beta firmware update

It should be there. What exactly have you installed?

 

[doggiehowser]

Roon's choice is to not support the general standard for network Audio (& Video) namely UPnP:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play#UPnP_AV_standards

If/when we support Roon is an open question and not just technical.

Anyone requiring Roon should use an external "bridge" to USB or SPDIF. The lowest cost turnkey solution is likely $300 Sonore Sonicorbiter;

• http://www.sonore.us/Sonicorbiter.html

Also note that DoP and MQA decoding work on all inputs, that is Network/HDD/SD card, SPDIF/AES-EBU and USB.

FWIW, many streamers today including the much maligned Chord Poly support BOTH UPNP and Roon protocols. And it works pretty well out of the box too. Ditto with Oppo 205, TEAC NT505, ALL the Lumins, all the Naim Unitis, PS Audio Bridge II, KEF LS50 Wireless, even the new tiny KEF LSX. I am not saying it is trivial. But the network streaming interface IMO often sounds the best compared to all the other inputs.

 

[skootb]

It should be there. What exactly have you installed?

V2.0 rc1. It was sent to me yesterday by Alix in support. I’m having an issue where my iDSD pro won’t connect to an iPhone or Mac via usb after a certain period of time unless the iDSD pro is restarted. So I installed the beta firmware to see if it’s any different. There isn’t an option for BitPerfect+ anymore with this new firmware for me

 

[iFi audio]

V2.0 rc1. It was sent to me yesterday by Alix in support. I’m having an issue where my iDSD pro won’t connect to an iPhone or Mac via usb after a certain period of time unless the iDSD pro is restarted. So I installed the beta firmware to see if it’s any different. There isn’t an option for BitPerfect+ anymore with this new firmware for me

It's best for you to open a ticket via our support and Alix should be able to help you.

 

[skootb]

I just turned the iDSD pro on at work and didn't see bit perfect +. after changing the input from usb, I now do see bit perfect + on all inputs. if it happens again, i'll take a video cycling through the filter options to show what's there

 

[iFi audio]

FWIW, many streamers today including the much maligned Chord Poly support BOTH UPNP and Roon protocols. And it works pretty well out of the box too. Ditto with Oppo 205, TEAC NT505, ALL the Lumins, all the Naim Unitis, PS Audio Bridge II, KEF LS50 Wireless, even the new tiny KEF LSX. I am not saying it is trivial. But the network streaming interface IMO often sounds the best compared to all the other inputs.

Music over IP sounds very good indeed, we agree. But again, if a given and desired functionality isn't available in our products (Pro iDSD in this case), it's not because we were lazy, there's a reason behind every R&D decision we make and as far as Roon goes, we look into it.

 

[flyte3333]

as far as Roon goes, we look into it.

I was more surprised that Chromecast wasn’t supported. Much larger demand / use cases than Roon. All of the native apps for all streaming services (other than Apple Music) can play direct to Chromecast endpoints . No Muzo, no mConnect, no Bubble UPnP app required. You can just use the native app developed by Spotify/ Qobuz / Deezer/ Google / Amazon etc etc

Plus Roon can now play bit perfectly to Chromecast endpoints anyway (up to 24/96), so Chromecast covers everything.

Of course the little Google Chromecast Audio puck is very cheap and it’s TOSlink output feeding Pro iDSD doesn’t sound too bad at all...

 

[iFi audio]

Of course the little Google Chromecast Audio puck is very cheap and it’s TOSlink output feeding Pro iDSD doesn’t sound too bad at all...

There you have it then, enjoy

 

[doggiehowser]

But Chromecast Audio doesn't support DSD audio. Not 192kHz PCM

 

[flyte3333]

But Chromecast Audio doesn't support DSD audio. Not 192kHz PCM

Correct, as I mentioned above, Chromecast is "limited" to PCM 24/96. So that rules out DSD over PCM (DoP) and 192kHz obviously. I know that's important for many people.

Myself included - Qobuz 24/192 plays well from Audirvana via UPnP to the Pro iDSD.

Aside from this limitation, the big advantage being with Chromecast is you can use Spotify's own app, Qobuz's own app, Deezer's own app etc etc etc. And Roon...

Not needing to go through Muzo, mConnect, Bubble UPnP apps etc.

Still, the very cheap Chromecast puck with TOSlink output works well for me. I can use any app I want and cast to it.

But for sure, you can add me to the long list of people hoping Roon comes to Pro iDSD's ethernet input

 

[iFi audio]

Folks, this is what we do this weekend:



If you're around, please come and say hi!

 

[flyte3333]

To any owners. Is anyone finding if they leave the unit on the USB input for hours, with no music playing, that the USB input goes to sleep, with no sound?

Even if I reboot my USB sources or even if I unplug them from Pro iDSD completely, I still have no sound when re-connecting them.

Even switching to another input, like SPDIF, which has sound working fine and then switching back to USB - still no sound with the USB input.

Unplugging headphones and re-plugging doesn't help either.

The only solution is to turn off the Pro iDSD completely and turn back on.

Can anyone reproduce this? Leave it on overnight, leave it on the USB input with no music playing.

Cheers

 

[youurayy]

To any owners. Is anyone finding if they leave the unit on the USB input for hours, with no music playing, that the USB input goes to sleep, with no sound?

Even if I reboot my USB sources or even if I unplug them from Pro iDSD completely, I still have no sound when re-connecting them.

Even switching to another input, like SPDIF, which has sound working fine and then switching back to USB - still no sound with the USB input.

Unplugging headphones and re-plugging doesn't help either.

The only solution is to turn off the Pro iDSD completely and turn back on.

Can anyone reproduce this? Leave it on overnight, leave it on the USB input with no music playing.

Cheers

to me, that eventually happens when I set the idsd device in Windows as "exclusive", even if i close / reopen all programs that may use it, or disable/enable the device. Only a hw restart of the device helps.

 

[flyte3333]

to me, that eventually happens when I set the idsd device in Windows as "exclusive", even if i close / reopen all programs that may use it, or disable/enable the device. Only a hw restart of the device helps.

Sounds similar to my issue - but in my case it doesn't matter if it's a Windows source or Linux source, both always in 'exclusive' mode (WASAPI or ALSA).

So when you say 'eventually', it happens after a number of hours for you? Or less than 1 hour?

And for you, does it only happen when USB input is 'idle' and not playing music? Or even when music is playing the sound cuts off after some time?