iBasso D6 "Fer-de-Lance" USB DAC/Amp
Jan 1, 2011 at 4:46 PM Post #47 of 774
Jam, you are really building this amp up to frightening proportions -  I hope it lives up to the hype :)
 
I'm going to try the Topkit with my D4 - it will be interesting to compare the results with whichever amp I buy next. I hope Ron wont mind if I post a section of his PM:
 
The D4 Topkit includes a custom Class A L/R module and a set of custom bypass buffers.  The Topkit can be used with the bypass buffers for a more neutral and opamp soundstage.  This also significantly improves battery life when in the 9v setting. Others prefer using the LR module with the stock buffers for more "punch".  Let your ears be the guide.
 
Personally, I'll take punch over neutral any day of the week, but I can see why he has to cover both bases. If I had to choose an iBasso amp atm, it would probably be the P4 based purely on the incredible numbers iBasso are claiming for this amp, but its all good. Roll on mid-January.
 
 
 
Jan 1, 2011 at 5:03 PM Post #48 of 774

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PB2 and D6 will be sold soon! Is there a thread for the PB2 yet?

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/528149/ibasso-pb-2-the-pelican-fully-balanced-portable-with-sockets-for-changing-op-amps-and-buffers
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Jam, you are really building this amp up to frightening proportions -  I hope it lives up to the hype :)
 

I am not trying to hype or build it to frightening proportions. I don't think any amp can scale that. With the USB this amp can do 24/96 is noticeably better though, even with 16/48 material, IMO. The amp and dac in this portable is going to be very enjoyable for those who get it, IMO. 
 
Jan 5, 2011 at 5:50 PM Post #50 of 774
Much will depend on 24/96 implementation and clocking.  I have a D12 and a DACPort and can say the DACPort sounds better, but it costs more, has no battery, etc.
 
The DAC section sounds like the D12, so I'm wondering if the only difference is the input options.  If so, maybe it's a bit cheaper.  I was annoyed that the D12 only supports up to 48K via USB and that I had to use TOSLINK for higher bitrates...
 
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Jan 6, 2011 at 4:05 AM Post #52 of 774


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If this is the new D4 and includes a DAC then I seriously doubt the amp can compare to the very similarly priced P4 which is dedicated to the function of amplification.
 
What I want to know is how it differs from the D12 other than connectivity.



If D6 will be running on 9V batteries the voltage swing will be larger than D12, which runs with 5V Lithium batteries. But until D6 will be officially announced so this is just speculation. D12's USB is 16/44.1 vs D6's 24/96.
 
Jan 6, 2011 at 8:01 PM Post #53 of 774
The D6 has over twice the swing voltage of the D12. The op amp choice with the D6 is quite large, which should satisfy many. The 24/96 sounds as good as high resolution optical 24/96 and noticeably better than 16/48 USB, IMO. 
 
Jan 6, 2011 at 10:39 PM Post #54 of 774
I would guess the D6 will have the same battery as the P4:
 
- Powered by 12.6V Li-polymer battery pack, or external 16V power adapter
 
I just wish they would make it available for sale already.  Its 5 days past the first. :frowning2:
 
Jan 6, 2011 at 11:04 PM Post #55 of 774
iBasso received the circuit boards for the D6 and PB2 today.  They said that they plan release within the week.
 
Jan 6, 2011 at 11:17 PM Post #56 of 774
John and Ron.. You two are such a tease. :p These few days the moment I wake up is to check Head-Fi and iBasso's website. Haha.
 
Jan 7, 2011 at 12:15 AM Post #57 of 774
In the chinese forum erji net people are saying that the D6 have a wider soundstage and sounds more natural. 
 
Someone commented that the voltage of the D6 is 11.4V much higher than then D4 at 9v 
 
Someone who have rolled Op-Amp does not like the default op-amp combo and suggest that the D4's Op-Amp sounds much better on the D6
The AD8620 seem to be highly recommended by him 
 
Jan 7, 2011 at 2:15 AM Post #58 of 774
 
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The D6 has a very fluid sound. Has power to spare that translates into a beautiful bass control. I agree that there is a very natural sound to the D6. Male voices convey more of a volume as in more resonance due to larger torso and female voice maintains a non dry sweet quality but again, natural not artificially warmed or softened. There is a open spatial quality. I do not note any hiss but I suspect this would be related to op amp choice and input, if other than the excellent USB. I think this USB dac/amp is going to give a lot of what people have been wanting from USB. 
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Jan 7, 2011 at 2:27 AM Post #59 of 774

 
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The D6 has a very fluid sound. Has power to spare that translates into a beautiful bass control. I agree that there is a very natural sound to the D6. Male voices convey more of a volume as in more resonance due to larger torso and female voice maintains a non dry sweet quality but again, natural not artificially warmed or softened. There is a open spatial quality. I do not note any hiss but I suspect this would be related to op amp choice and input, if other than the excellent USB. I think this USB dac/amp is going to give a lot of what people have been wanting from USB. 


Oh ya John, do you have anything to say about this against the D12 (usb)? This really sounds promising. :)
 
 
If you don't feel like revealing too much at this point of time, just ignore my question ya John. :) Anticipating is part of the fun! Haha.
 
 
 
PS: No idea why my first post came out only with the quoted message. Eek.
 
Jan 7, 2011 at 2:39 AM Post #60 of 774
The D12, IMO is excellent and a wonderful performer. The advantage the D6 has is a USB dac that does 24/96 and for heavier demands, over twice the voltage swing. The optical input of the D12 though does a great job but USB to USB it is 16/48 to 24/96, and 24/96 even brings out more in 16/48 recordings. 
 

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