[headmanPL]

What improvements are we talking about.
Soundstage, more details, separation...etc?

That's a question I'm keen to understand the answer to. I'm going to have a listen next week. Can you take your TT2 to a demo, or have an M-Scaler loaned?

 

[CaptainFantastic]

What improvements are we talking about.
Soundstage, more details, separation...etc?

Really minimal if any at all, in my own personal experience. Chord told me it's more noticeable with speakers.

Definitely a piece of gear to demo and see what it does for you with your system first.

 

[audionewbie123]

That's a question I'm keen to understand the answer to. I'm going to have a listen next week. Can you take your TT2 to a demo, or have an M-Scaler loaned?

Nope. can't do either. That's why i need some input.

Let me know how it goes. I have read mixed review about the m scaler.

 

[seaice]

What improvements are we talking about.
Soundstage, more details, separation...etc?

Difficult to put it in words: Better soundstage, naturality, three-dimensionality... After I switched the m-scaler off after listening to it for a long time, I thought everything was so digital, and the soundstage somehow collapsed into a less-dimensional experience; some naturality disappeared, and I could not stand it. It is a matter of time; initially, the perceived differences were quite subtle, but after a long time with the M-S, I perceived it much more strongly. In short, try it for as long as possible before forming any judgments.

I even bought a second M-Scaler for my second Chord DAC. It is almost impossible for me to listen to music without it after having it for a long time...

 

[AussieMick]

What improvements are we talking about.
Soundstage, more details, separation...etc?

Ease, naturalness, flow. Once you get used to it it’s very, very difficult to give up. There’s nothing about it that’s an instant hifi difference for me. It’s just…better.

 

[Amberlamps]

Fixt

 

[Progisus]

Just to add, I hate the new format of the forums, I use an ipad and there are very large disruptive adverts on the right hand side of the screen,

I use an ad blocker (piehole - does other blocks as well) and an ipad. This may help your case. The TT2 case is very unfortunate.

 

[Amberlamps]

I use an ad blocker (piehole - does other blocks as well) and an ipad. This may help your case. The TT2 case is very unfortunate.

Yeah, I did use ad blockers on my ipad, but not long ago I needed to wipe my ipad and I’m still building it up to the way I had it before and I totally forgot about blockers until you mentioned it, so off I pop to the app store. Cheers

 

[audionewbie123]

Difficult to put it in words: Better soundstage, naturality, three-dimensionality... After I switched the m-scaler off after listening to it for a long time, I thought everything was so digital, and the soundstage somehow collapsed into a less-dimensional experience; some naturality disappeared, and I could not stand it. It is a matter of time; initially, the perceived differences were quite subtle, but after a long time with the M-S, I perceived it much more strongly. In short, try it for as long as possible before forming any judgments.

I even bought a second M-Scaler for my second Chord DAC. It is almost impossible for me to listen to music without it after having it for a long time...

Ease, naturalness, flow. Once you get used to it it’s very, very difficult to give up. There’s nothing about it that’s an instant hifi difference for me. It’s just…better.

Interesting.

Will M-Scaler work with other DACs. I m getting a Lampizator Baltic 4 Dac. Will it work with Tube DACs?

 

[AussieMick]

Interesting.

Will M-Scaler work with other DACs. I m getting a Lampizator Baltic 4 Dac. Will it work with Tube DACs?

It works with any DAC, but 705.6/768 are only available via the dual BNC of other Chord DACs. Non-Chord DACs up to 352.8/384. I’ve not tried it with anything other than Mojo2, Hugo2 and TT2.
Tube or not makes no difference to operation.

 

[seaice]

Interesting.

Will M-Scaler work with other DACs. I m getting a Lampizator Baltic 4 Dac. Will it work with Tube DACs?

Tried it only once for a very short time (probably just a couple of minutes), so do not take this as a final and reliable judgment. Also, there was a technical limitation when connecting M-Scaler to the other DACs (Schiit, Audio-GD; max. 192k input via coax), so M-Scaler was not working fully: I did not hear anything substantial, perhaps nothing at all, and I sold all the other DACs after that...

 

[Jawed]

Even a DAC from the 90s shows benefits:

https://www.stereophile.com/content...-m-scaler-upsampling-digital-processor-page-2

The Hugo M Scaler brought the performance of the Levinson No.30.6 DAC into the third decade of this century.

 

[kkrazik2008]

Even a DAC from the 90s shows benefits:

https://www.stereophile.com/content...-m-scaler-upsampling-digital-processor-page-2

That DAC mentioned, the Mark Levinson No. 30.6 is one of the best multi bit DACs of all time, legendary. We are not talking a typical DAC from that era, which to be honest kick ass compared to many modern delta sigma DACs. M-scaler is not going to be optimal if running a non-chord DAC, not taking full advantage of the 1 million taps. The other odd recommendation is using with oversampling DAS, which is them doing a double OS, very odd indeed. Same with using HQ Player with an OS DAC, why bother.

 

[audionewbie123]

I tried the HQPlayer with Roon. Tried a variety of filters but did not find any major improvements in the SQ.

My chain Roon->HQPlayer->Hugo TT2->Headonia->Susvara.

So i m guessing that m scaler wont help my chain.

 

[AussieMick]

I tried the HQPlayer with Roon. Tried a variety of filters but did not find any major improvements in the SQ.

My chain Roon->HQPlayer->Hugo TT2->Headonia->Susvara.

So i m guessing that m scaler wont help my chain.

Possibly. Probably even. However, HQP and MScaler really don’t achieve the same outcomes at all. I will say that at my house I notice the effect of MScaler more with speakers (Kanta 2) than with headphones (U22). I’m also positive many others here have had a different experience.