Hugo TT 2 by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread

Aug 5, 2022 at 3:04 PM Post #16,516 of 19,781
The TT2 will not hurt your Susvara. Speaker amps may if you're not careful about volume.

I haven't tried the ifi Diablo, but TT2 should beat it pretty easily in most aspects except portability.
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 3:21 PM Post #16,517 of 19,781
At 32 Ohm the TT2 puts out 2,7 W SE which is actually more than the Diablo's 2,4 W.
Still, power is not everything. Implementation, design is what creates better sound. Forget numbers.
Yes I agree. This is just assumptions before I try. I don´t know how it will sound because I have never tried. But I am happy its a litte more "powerful" in the numbers :)
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 3:25 PM Post #16,518 of 19,781
The TT2 will not hurt your Susvara. Speaker amps may if you're not careful about volume.

I haven't tried the ifi Diablo, but TT2 should beat it pretty easily in most aspects except portability.
I definitly bought the TT2 as and huge upgrade from my iFi Diablo.

But theoretically I am not afraid of connecting the Susvara to preamp, which will giver about 5.7w/60Ohms. Thats alot of power but does it sound better than SE?
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 6:48 PM Post #16,519 of 19,781
I definitly bought the TT2 as and huge upgrade from my iFi Diablo.

But theoretically I am not afraid of connecting the Susvara to preamp, which will giver about 5.7w/60Ohms. Thats alot of power but does it sound better than SE?
Just tested the SE VS XLR out the back and difficult to assess, both sounds extremely good and neither is lacking, it was not a blind test and as such not critical listening but subjectively and after a few 🍷i feel thatvthe XLR is just slightly more defined and controlled…. Volume on SE was -4 and on XLR -9 in high gain mode played from aries G1 upsampled to 352,8 on the G1, (using HMS with CH2 in ny office), but as I said very subjective and both extremly good and not feeling I lack any more ”power” not the need to add my AHB2 in the mix….just my 2 cents…
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 6:51 PM Post #16,520 of 19,781
Just tested the SE VS XLR out the back and difficult to assess, both sounds extremely good and neither is lacking, it was not a blind test and as such not critical listening but subjectively and after a few 🍷i feel thatvthe XLR is just slightly more defined and controlled…. Volume on SE was -4 and on XLR -9 in high gain mode played from aries G1 upsampled to 352,8 on the G1, (using HMS with CH2 in ny office), but as I said very subjective and both extremly good and not feeling I lack any more ”power” not the need to add my AHB2 in the mix….just my 2 cents…
Further to above…using Susvaras….
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 7:08 PM Post #16,521 of 19,781
Thank you very much for taking the time to compare🙏

Can’t wait to compare. I already know the Diablo is waaaay better than RME DAC FS.

I sincerly hope TT2 sounds twice as good, if thats too much to ask. I hope I land on the moon when I plug the Susvara into the TT2
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 8:02 PM Post #16,522 of 19,781
Thank you very much for taking the time to compare🙏

Can’t wait to compare. I already know the Diablo is waaaay better than RME DAC FS.

I sincerly hope TT2 sounds twice as good, if thats too much to ask. I hope I land on the moon when I plug the Susvara into the TT2
Well I cannot guarantee anything as ymmv but it is almost 02:00 CET and I am still up listening to music and my wife said she was going to bed and I happily waved her off wishing her a good night and see you tomorrow….😉
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 9:31 PM Post #16,523 of 19,781
Just tested the SE VS XLR out the back and difficult to assess, both sounds extremely good and neither is lacking, it was not a blind test and as such not critical listening but subjectively and after a few 🍷i feel thatvthe XLR is just slightly more defined and controlled…. Volume on SE was -4 and on XLR -9 in high gain mode played from aries G1 upsampled to 352,8 on the G1, (using HMS with CH2 in ny office), but as I said very subjective and both extremly good and not feeling I lack any more ”power” not the need to add my AHB2 in the mix….just my 2 cents…
I heard it exactly the other way round. With SE and Susvara the resolution/clarity was more enjoyable and Power was more than enough. Yes, I had different speaker amps but there was always a loss of transparency.
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:18 PM Post #16,524 of 19,781
I heard it exactly the other way round. With SE and Susvara the resolution/clarity was more enjoyable and Power was more than enough. Yes, I had different speaker amps but there was always a loss of transparency.
TT2 and SE? Volume how high?
 
Aug 5, 2022 at 10:31 PM Post #16,525 of 19,781
TT2 and SE? Volume how high?
I can feel your anticipation of the Susvara and TT2 with every post. Once you have them in front of you, you will be able to figure out everything for yourself. The questions you're asking are very subjective and what others tell you may not suit you or vice versa. You have an amazing headphone on the way with one of the best all-in-ones to drive it. You are in for a treat, regardless of what output you use.

The volume level and music you normally listen to will dictate if you need to use SE outs or the rear balanced outs. That's why I say its very subjective. If you are able to get to your desired volume from the SE outs without going over +7 on the volume, then you will be fine using SE outs. If you're frequently hitting volume levels over that, you will want to use the rear balanced outs.
 
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Aug 5, 2022 at 11:43 PM Post #16,526 of 19,781
TT2 and SE? Volume how high?
TT2 and SE? Volume how high?
Can’t remember but certainly not near the volume that has been mentioned. I mainly listen to rock, singer/songwriters and jazz. It seems when the volume is too high my brain can’t take it all in…micro details and delicate layering gets lost and just the *big notes* survive.
Anyway, water under the bridge as I have sold the TT2 a few days ago.
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 6:35 AM Post #16,527 of 19,781
I can feel your anticipation of the Susvara and TT2 with every post. Once you have them in front of you, you will be able to figure out everything for yourself. The questions you're asking are very subjective and what others tell you may not suit you or vice versa. You have an amazing headphone on the way with one of the best all-in-ones to drive it. You are in for a treat, regardless of what output you use.

The volume level and music you normally listen to will dictate if you need to use SE outs or the rear balanced outs. That's why I say its very subjective. If you are able to get to your desired volume from the SE outs without going over +7 on the volume, then you will be fine using SE outs. If you're frequently hitting volume levels over that, you will want to use the rear balanced outs.
As I read your post I got postal notice. Susvara is ready for pickup now….talking about a year of search and a lot of hours on google/youtube etc. I was hooked on Weiss Dac501/502, and I somehow knew TT2 would be my second pick, I could not justify the price of Weiss…

I was a little afraid I might not like the TT2 because of latency, but I have set my setup for gaming = Diablo + Arya. I just love this combo. I have about 500Hours of burn in on them(Single Ended) my Forza cable has started to open up in the sound(50hours atleast) …

Diablo does not forgive any file. Its raw/harsh and true. Sometimes I judge the Diablo/Arya when I listen and say, “this is just a midtone setup it lacks bass” but then….another track or a certain moment in a movie comes in… “how can it get better than this” I say to myself… only one con for Diablo. It has volume imbalance. It has its sweetspot for perfect sound.

The excitement is high because I am going to compare the sound quality TT2 vs Diablo.

Can’t remember but certainly not near the volume that has been mentioned. I mainly listen to rock, singer/songwriters and jazz. It seems when the volume is too high my brain can’t take it all in…micro details and delicate layering gets lost and just the *big notes* survive.
Anyway, water under the bridge as I have sold the TT2 a few days ago.
So what DAC are you going to get(got)?
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 7:21 AM Post #16,528 of 19,781
Just tested the SE VS XLR out the back and difficult to assess, both sounds extremely good and neither is lacking, it was not a blind test and as such not critical listening but subjectively and after a few 🍷i feel thatvthe XLR is just slightly more defined and controlled…. Volume on SE was -4 and on XLR -9 in high gain mode played from aries G1 upsampled to 352,8 on the G1, (using HMS with CH2 in ny office), but as I said very subjective and both extremly good and not feeling I lack any more ”power” not the need to add my AHB2 in the mix….just my 2 cents…
I also hear a slightly more defined and controlled sound with the XLR, but also less fluid and some hardening of the sound that make it less natural sounding IMO.
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 7:56 AM Post #16,529 of 19,781
I also hear a slightly more defined and controlled sound with the XLR, but also less fluid and some hardening of the sound that make it less natural sounding IMO.
I wonder if you experience is still the same if there were an headphone amp connected to the xlr
 
Aug 6, 2022 at 8:20 AM Post #16,530 of 19,781
I wonder if you experience is still the same if there were an headphone amp connected to the xlr

I used my speaker amp (se my sig) to the XLR and this sounded better than both the front SE and rear XLR from TT2 IMO. I had small loss of fluid compared to front SE, but everything else got better with my speaker amp in the chain.
 
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