[vegetaleb]

Yeah I am pretty sure all the problems of this external dongle is that it doesn't have Boomsound which is plain st*p*d from HTC, we should pray that they implement it in a FW, it's the only way to save the U 11

 

[oryan_dunn]

All boomsound on the headphone jack on the 10 is a fairly poor eq that results in clipping. Not sure why you'd use it on the 10, or why you'd want it on the U11.

Also, I'm sure the 10 would have had separate DAC/amp for the headphone port vs the internal speakers, so not having a headphone port has nothing to do with why the 11 is louder. The requirements for a headphone amp are different that that of the tiny speakers in the phone.

 

[RockStar2005]

All boomsound on the headphone jack on the 10 is a fairly poor eq that results in clipping. Not sure why you'd use it on the 10, or why you'd want it on the U11.

Also, I'm sure the 10 would have had separate DAC/amp for the headphone port vs the internal speakers, so not having a headphone port has nothing to do with why the 11 is louder. The requirements for a headphone amp are different that that of the tiny speakers in the phone.

I can't say I've noticed any clipping though using the 3.5mm jack on the 10 though. Instead, I feel it gives the volume a nice bump which I appreciate.

HTC claims that by removing the headphone port they were able to make the U 11's speaker louder. I don't buy it either. lol Yeah it prob does have a separate one. Just like how it has a dedicated amp for the headphones, it prob uses a dedicated one for speakers. Though I'm not 100% sure. lol

 

[vegetaleb]

GSM Arena review is up
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11-review-1620p6.php

The HTC U11 did splendidly in the first part of our audio test. When hooked to an active external amplifier it delivered very loud and perfectly accurate output.

When headphones come into play the volume remains nicely high and the only reading to take a hit is stereo crosstalk. It's a moderate amount of damage there and will all the other aspects of the performance remaining excellent, it's a great showing overall.

So it's just equal to LG G6 non-Quad Dac, which is a shame coming from the HTC 10, it's not bad though.
We should ask HTC to implement Boomsound into the adapter to boost it up

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[RockStar2005]

GSM Arena review is up
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11-review-1620p6.php

The HTC U11 did splendidly in the first part of our audio test. When hooked to an active external amplifier it delivered very loud and perfectly accurate output.

When headphones come into play the volume remains nicely high and the only reading to take a hit is stereo crosstalk. It's a moderate amount of damage there and will all the other aspects of the performance remaining excellent, it's a great showing overall.

So it's just equal to LG G6 non-Quad Dac, which is a shame coming from the HTC 10, it's not bad though.
We should ask HTC to implement Boomsound into the adapter to boost it up

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As good as the LG G6 non-Quad DAC? What were the average reviews on the G6 non-Quad DAC version though?

Yeah they should.

 

[vegetaleb]

The more I read users reports the more it's clear, the dongle lacks 2 steps in loudness and dynamic range as well as an average stereo crosstalk.
Some people are already buying Fiio K1 and other external DAC
I will repeat it as much as I can: the only solution for HTC to save this dongle is to implement Boomsound

 

[oryan_dunn]

The more I read users reports the more it's clear, the dongle lacks 2 steps in loudness and dynamic range as well as an average stereo crosstalk.
Some people are already buying Fiio K1 and other external DAC
I will repeat it as much as I can: the only solution for HTC to save this dongle is to implement Boomsound

Those sound like hardware issues, not software issues. Implementing an EQ curve on a so-so dac/amp won't help the performance of the dac/amp.

 

[Blueshound24]

I think I would tend to agree with oryan_dunn in the sense of I prefer running without any EQ, without muddying the waters, so to speak.

All boomsound on the headphone jack on the 10 is a fairly poor eq that results in clipping. Not sure why you'd use it on the 10, or why you'd want it on the U11.

Those sound like hardware issues, not software issues. Implementing an EQ curve on a so-so dac/amp won't help the performance of the dac/amp.

 

[vegetaleb]

Those sound like hardware issues, not software issues. Implementing an EQ curve on a so-so dac/amp won't help the performance of the dac/amp.

I agree for the stereo crosstalk but for a better dynamic range Boomsound + Dolby like on the 10 can make a difference.
About the crosstalk it's as good as the Cowon J3 given the stats, I tried my good old J3 yesterday with Stereo Enhance to the max, well it's not as bad as I thought, not the same super wide sound-stage of the 10, but already nice, the J3 was very popular in the Head-Fi world some years ago. Hopefully I will have my U11 next week unless HTC raises the price, it will be a 128gb version + my SD of 64gb, so much room for multimedia!

 

[RockStar2005]

Some GOOD news for HTC.

http://htcsource.com/2017/06/htc-u11-selling-better-than-the-htc-10-one-m9/

 

[voxie]

Some GOOD news for HTC.

http://htcsource.com/2017/06/htc-u11-selling-better-than-the-htc-10-one-m9/

Thanks for sharing RockStar.

 

[RockStar2005]

Thanks for sharing RockStar.

YW!

I still like the 10 more overall, but anyway lol...........................................................

 

[vegetaleb]

Techradar is the first from the popular tech websites to say the adapter is pretty good http://www.techradar.com/reviews/htc-u11-review/4

While it’s annoying that HTC has dropped the headphone jack on the U11 (we’re still not in a place where forcing this decision on consumers is a good idea – and it’s not like this phone is massively thin) the bundled adaptor is excellent.
It’s not only more robust than the one Apple offers, but it’s also got a digital amplifier inside, so whichever headphones you plug in they’re going to sound better. It does draw power, but not a lot, and it really improves the sound quality.

 

[RockStar2005]

Techradar is the first from the popular tech websites to say the adapter is pretty good http://www.techradar.com/reviews/htc-u11-review/4

While it’s annoying that HTC has dropped the headphone jack on the U11 (we’re still not in a place where forcing this decision on consumers is a good idea – and it’s not like this phone is massively thin) the bundled adaptor is excellent.
It’s not only more robust than the one Apple offers, but it’s also got a digital amplifier inside, so whichever headphones you plug in they’re going to sound better. It does draw power, but not a lot, and it really improves the sound quality.

Nice! Thanks for sharing veg!

I'd love to read more that compare it to the 10's too!!!!!!

 

[vegetaleb]

Bad news for me!
The U 11 is being postponed in my country till July
Only the grey market one is available and it's super expensive, while the S8 price is being more and more tempting.
I could end up getting the S8 finally, the thing is that the 10's price will most probably drop these 2 weeks from 460 to 400$ and I don't want to end up losing money in reselling mine.
I will wait till next week to see how the price of the U 11 grey market will drop or not, or else I am nearly convinced to get the S8