garywsyu
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Audio-gd and AUNE both are quite reputable brand names from China. But still there are many other experienced music and electronic fanatics working night and day to satisfy their dreams.
Edit4: This is the correct driver,http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35324113465 (the baidu link on the third line), and after using an amplifier, the brightness became tolerable. So the amp on this is of no use and it needs a separate amp. But overall it's really good and detailed. For example, I heard more detail in this video than ever before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5X9oUNSYyE (including the detailed background music being played by the second guy)
The link is for the 1.61 driver which is several generations back from Thesycon. They refer to it as the latest 2.19 driver but it isn't. Once you unpack it you can read the setup file with notepad (which I did). It gives the version as 1.61. You surprised me, I thought you were going to order the more expensive board. Honestly with an HD800 that dac is not going to get you where your trying to go.
This is so hilarious. Why do people on head-fi have this compulsion to get others to spend more money? Have you done introspection to figure out why you needed to tell me that a system you have never heard is no good, and that it would not be good unless I purchased a more expensive product that you also never heard? lol. It's not just you doing this. it's ton of others on head-fi, some of whom I can clearly verify are giving erroneous advice. It's just kind of funny if you think of it. I guess it's just part of the board's culture.
The truth is that this DAC doesn't sound noticeably better than my laptop DAC, It sounds different and brighter, and maybe that brightness is revealing a tiny bit of additional detail, but I still can't say it's objectively better in any way (ignoring its amplifier which is clearly crap relative to the built in amplifiers on my other DACs). I can't conclude that any of my six DACs are "better" (the five other DACs being two cell phone dacs, a laptop dac, the dac in the hdmi video card used in my desktop, and my desktop's base audio dac). They're all just different. They each have their own sound signature, some warmer, some brighter, etc. And I seriously doubt a $1,000 DAC would sound better either because I suspect the truth is that a DAC is simply a DAC.
If I was really worried about sound quality, I wouldn't be listening to a crappy HD800 with its tiny 1.5" drivers in the first place. I would be listening to the sweet spot of my speakers, positioned perfectly around me, all cranked up and enveloping me in glorious 5.1 sound.
Thank you for the note about the driver though, and ultimately my advice would be to never buy any of these Chinese dacs except as a gamble or for fun. If anyone else wants to buy, here are two chinese websites where you can buy all these dac boards directly, although ebay is still probably the preferred route due to their buyer protection.
http://www.hifiwow.com/en/12-dac-decoder-digital-to-analog-conveter
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=35324113465
I guess I don't see the point to all of your posting,(and your disputatious manner), if you are not worried about sound quality.
I mean.
Isn't that THE POINT?
It's why MOST of us are members of this Forum.
I'm not a HeadFi-er because of the shiney stuff on my rig-rack or how great my HPs make my hair look.
It's about SOUND QUALITY.
Many many of your posts and most of your edits, even in THIS thread, are about sound quality.
Since January, you've contributed quite a bit to the Board's culture. Including your derision towards people who are just honestly offering input and help, not criticizing you. I viewed Chodi's remark as an observation of the power needed to do justice to your 800's, not a personal remark about your gear. And that observation was only to help you in evaluating your little experiment more correctly. How can you assess what's going on if what you use, to make audible the output of your trials, is inadequate?
I really think maybe you already have it decided that you are keen on the whole Cheap Chinese idea...and that persons who offer something that differs from that are to be decried as foolish and "hilarious". But, if you are really interested in honest results from your experiment, you'll respect that differing perspectives and honest suggestions are the best way to get the truth, especially when how you determine your results is almost entirely subjective anyway; your own ears.
p.s.
if the thing won't properly drive the 800's....sure isn't going to do much for your Glorious Speaker Rig.
just sayin'
If you took time to actually read the thread before posting all that, you would have seen that:
1. I plugged the DAC it into my 500 watt amplifier, which has more than enough power and which improved the DAC by toning down its brightness. A number of the edits, again which you didn't bother to read, were focused on the DAC's unusual brightness and this eventual solution to that problem.
2. The other more expensive DAC that chodi thought I had purchased and which was linked earlier was just a DAC, not the powerful amplifier you incorrectly think is necessary for an HD800, so your whole premise was wrong.
3. I can't enjoy my speakers, because I can't play them at 70-75db ear level without annoying others. That's why I listen to the HD800. The point was that all of this nit-picky criticism of headphone set ups (criticism which can often be summarized as, "I haven't heard your system but you need to spend more money" and which is often wrong) is kind of like a midgets criticizing each other for being 4'11 instead of 4'11 1/2. At the end of the day everyone listening to headphones is a person who doesn't have the privacy necessary to enjoy speakers. But such misguided critiques are especially hilarious when offered by a person who neither heard my setup or the setup he thinks would sound better.
Your post is a perfect example of why some on head-fi seek only to spread misinformation, based on false premises, and why one has to be very careful before listening to anyone on here.
No, your premise is that you think you were wronged somehow because someone recommended you to buy a pair of headphones (HD800) which you refuse absolutely to try on decent gear. Here's something you can do FOR FREE: take your HD800s, drive to a meet or a local audio shop, and try them on a PROPER headphone amp/DAC combo. Then you can come on here and tell us all how we are spreading misinformation - when you've actually tried decent gear.
In fact, why haven't you sold the HD800 by now? You could still sell them and buy some cheap 50usd headphone and be done with it. Why keep them? Also, why are you still on Head-Fi if everybody spreads misinformation and tries to make you waste your money? I don't understand your purpose in posting on these forums if that's how you feel.
If I was really worried about sound quality, I wouldn't be listening to a crappy HD800 with its tiny 1.5" drivers in the first place. I would be listening to the sweet spot of my speakers, positioned perfectly around me, all cranked up and enveloping me in glorious 5.1 sound.
I have no idea what the hell you're talking about, or your reasoning (why exactly do I need to sell my HD800? I like it). If you could rewrite your post slowly and carefully that would be great. or just drop it. either way. thanks.
What other DACs do you have? The difference between a cheapo DAC and a more expensive DAC does have significant differences. Also, you say you don't hear a difference between amping the HD800s and listening to them straight through the headphone jack of your laptop?