How do I convince people that audio cables DO NOT make a difference
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Jan 19, 2021 at 6:41 PM Post #2,206 of 3,657
You’ll want to figure out what kind of connectors your IEMs take and perhaps get adapters to be able to plug into the switch box.
Yes, it’s an obvious thing to think about.
 
Jan 31, 2021 at 5:00 AM Post #2,207 of 3,657
I know a guy who has lost one eye - I use him for single blind tests - but his cousin who was born blind in both eyes, has such sharp ears, he can tell the diffrence between different brands of coat hangers used as cables, never mind standard cables.
I tried that test and the only difference i can hear reliability is between those cheap metal hangers from the dry cleaners and Target brand hangers made of plastic.
 
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Jan 31, 2021 at 5:01 PM Post #2,208 of 3,657
I tried that test and the only difference i can hear reliability is between those cheap metal hangers feom the dry cleaners and Target brand hangers made of plastic.
So do you agree with me that "dry cleaner" ones sound much better, more sound stage?
And if you should poke yourself in the eye with one, you can do a blind test to confirm.
Who says different cable materials do not make a diffrence??
Glad we agree . . .
 
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Jan 31, 2021 at 5:15 PM Post #2,209 of 3,657
Dry cleaner sounds cleaner. Plastic sounds kind of fake. Cables with knitted cloth covering sound warmer. If I use green wires for positive and red ones for negative it sounds backwards.
 
Feb 1, 2021 at 4:27 AM Post #2,211 of 3,657
Boloney
 
Feb 1, 2021 at 9:51 PM Post #2,214 of 3,657
Yeah, the two old myths: my golden ears and my hugely expensive-and-oh-so-great equipment. You dont have those, you cannot tell the difference.
For the cases where this is accurate, most people will have neither, so they effectively don't notice a difference. Tiny variations that require training and special gear just to make them noticeable by someone, I don't see why I as a listener, should care in the first place.
And the rest of the time, where those statements are made up excuses from people who are really saying "please, look at me I'm special", it's also not a great motivator for me.
 
Feb 2, 2021 at 4:06 AM Post #2,215 of 3,657
You have to be a trained listener to hear the difference between cables (and mp3/wav, hi-res/CD etc).
If you cannot hear the difference you need more training.
It is very easy to make a half-ass try and say 'oh no difference'.
I have always thought the purpose of music listening is to enjoy music, but apparently that's not the case! It's about hearing differences!
Do you also dislike the food you eat on basis "I ate 1 % better spagetti 5 years ago in Milano! I can tell the difference because my mouth is trained!"
I have/use ONLY cheapo cables. I don't care how expensive cables sound. My cheap cables allow me to enjoy music meaning they work for me.
 
Feb 2, 2021 at 3:04 PM Post #2,216 of 3,657
We all have normal human ears. If some people hear differently, it's because of hearing damage, not training. No amount of training will train you to hear things that are inaudible.

As for the quality of equipment... I carefully test every piece of gear I put in my system. For the last four decades, I've found absolutely no correlation between sound quality and price when it comes to electronics. Only with transducers.
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 10:52 AM Post #2,217 of 3,657
I think cables don't make a difference.

However, it's sometimes not easy to find an appropriate cable except through "specialist cable makers" who charge quite abit, or doing DIY.

For most people, spending the money you make elsewhere to pay the specialist cable maker is the choice to make.

For the last four decades...

Wow now I understand your posts more.
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 11:33 AM Post #2,219 of 3,657
I am disappointed in the number of people on this forum itself that think cables make a difference. Furthermore, they argue that it actually changes frequency response, which is pathetic. A really long cable would just increase the noise floor, it wouldn't add distortion.

lol. This is an awesome first post.

Also, relax a little.

OR ACTUALLY - have a gander at this USD 3k retail cable: https://www.effectaudio.com/hall-of-fame/horusocta.html
 
Feb 6, 2021 at 1:59 PM Post #2,220 of 3,657
I am disappointed in the number of people on this forum itself that think cables make a difference. Furthermore, they argue that it actually changes frequency response, which is pathetic. A really long cable would just increase the noise floor, it wouldn't add distortion.
I am too, It triggers me greatly because I kind of see it as a scam.

OR ACTUALLY - have a gander at this USD 3k retail cable: https://www.effectaudio.com/hall-of-fame/horusocta.html

I'd pay about 10 bux for this and even then it's much much too thick for live stage use or on the go mobile use.
 
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