vc1187
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Tim's honesty is quite admirable. It shows that he values customer satisfaction and product reputation over the common marketing tactic that many other companies utilize.
I agree that upsampling has a positive effect. My Spring 1 Level 1 seems to like DSD512 in NOS mode!I have continued to burn-in the KTE Spring 2, up to just under 500 hours at this point. KTE Singxer SU-1 has also been part of this same burn-in process, and its burn-in also may account for some of the changes I am hearing. Things are definitely getting interesting now.
Somewhere past the 400 hour mark in use, sound quality has taken a positive step forward. Imaging and spatial ques are now clearer than before, treble seems to have smoothed out even more (this was already a strong point from the start) and clarity of sound in congested passages has improved as well. Instruments have a 3 dimensional feel to them that was not there before. I have only had a couple of serious, long listening sessions so far, primarily on the weekends, so the changes in sound quality have been noticeable and somewhat distinct. I have also refrained from listening to certain test tracks in between these sessions, to try and help with hearing changes from burn-in. On the intermediate weeknights, I’ve just been exploring other music (generally with a smile on my face at this point). When not listening, the system has just been playing a variety of music on a continuous basis.
One of the goals I had with upgrading my system was to better resolve some of the large choral pieces in my music collection. One of my favorite CDs is the Verdi Requiem by Robert Shaw and the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and Chorus (Telarc). One of the shortcomings of my prior gear was the inability of the system to resolve this material cleanly or realistically during large crescendos in the music. Soprano material in particular was a trouble spot – instead of hearing distinct voices during crescendos, I was hearing a peaky, congested, treble mess in these parts of the music. The sound tended to smear together, with a glare to the sound that was nowhere near realistic sounding. It was like the audio chain was just being overloaded by this type of material, particularly in the treble.
While things got a little better when I initially got the Spring 2, these passages were still not fully resolved, and some of the glare and peakiness in the treble was still there in these louder passages. It was a bit disappointing at first, and I was beginning to wonder of some of the issues were with the recording itself. But I am happy to say that this is one of the areas that I have definitely noticed improvements with the Spring 2 and extended burn-in time. The treble parts of these passages are getting much smoother and more resolved. While not perfect, it is sounding like voices now, instead of conglomerated glare in the treble. It has really been a noticeable improvement. It is not just the smoothing of the treble that has occurred, it is also the increased separation and improvements in imaging that I think have contributed here.
Another area I have started exploring is upsampling with HQPlayer software. This appears to have some real possibilities, and is sounding very, very good. I have tried a couple of different scenarios, taking 44.1K material to 352.8K, and also converting it to DSD512. It appears to be a trade off at times, but generally I am much preferring the upsampled sound to the original – smoother, more organic, bigger sound stage, and more distinct separation of instruments are things I noticed. This will be a long journey at this point, exploring filters and upsampling settings, but I am liking very much where this is going.
In summary, I was not sure if I was 100% happy with this DAC on initial listening tests, but burn-in has completely changed my opinion. Very happy now with where things are going, and the possibilities with upsampling are making things interesting indeed. I think I will be quite happy with the Spring 2 for a while.
This is good to hear. I’ve had a variant of the Kitsune Holo Spring Lvl 3 & SU-1 and been particularly curious on the Holo Spring V2.0.Below is a quote from Tim Connor of Kitsune Hi-Fi.
"The overall spring1 vs spring2 comparisons are marginal and was not released to be considered an upgrade of the spring1 but rather a continuance or an already great dac with a few improvements. Personally I would not strongly recommend anyone to “upgrade” from spring1 to spring2 since it’s a somewhat small difference imho."
Are you going to be placing an order/demoing a Spring 2?This is good to hear. I’ve had a variant of the Kitsune Holo Spring Lvl 3 & SU-1 and been particularly curious on the Holo Spring V2.0.
Sadly no plans to. If there’s a demo unit tour, I’d be glad to do a comparison but don’t think there’s one.Are you going to be placing an order/demoing a Spring 2?
If so, being you have experience with the KTE Spring I'd like to hear your thoughts.
I'm very content with my KTE Spring & KTE SU-1, and after reading Tim's comment, I don't believe I'll be making any moves on the Spring 2 if the differences are subtle.
Torq is running his own for-profit website now.There is a really good comparison of the original Spring and the original Yggy by 'Torq' that may answer some of your questions. I don't remember if it was on Head-Fi or one of the other forums, but it was a very detailed review and comparison of these two DACs. At the time of that comparison, he ended up keeping and using both of those DACs as complimentary to each other. Suggest tracking down that review.
I think it's safe to assume the Spring 2 is better than Spring 1. By how much is purely subjective (unless you must have the new features of the Spring 2). What Spring business folks should think about is this - if Spring 1 owners are contemplating selling to fund an upgrade to Spring 2, that also opens the possibility that Spring 1 owners will consider other DACs like Yggy. I would advise Spring business folks to come up with a compelling upgrade offer that keeps Spring owners as long term owners. Schiit already figured this out. As the very well known business saying goes - getting new customers (or getting back lost customers) is far more expensive than keeping your existing customers.
Torq is running his own for-profit website now.
Any address of the website?
Torq is running his own for-profit website now.
This is an email received. So this may need a bit of clarification maybe? So the position is a volunteer one? Good to know.