[Solude]

   Also, I noticed that SE846 isn't affected by the 22ohm OI of AK100(original)

 
You couldn't hear the 9dB variance of the "normal" frequency response?  It's a change that is greater than swapping the white for black filters.  Odd.

 

[lee730]

It's funny. I don't think of myself as a basshead. I like sharp and punchy.

 
You gotta love bass though with the 8A ... Same with the FX850 but I find the bass to be much more controlled and less intrusive than the FX850s than my former 8A... The 8A made the FX850s sound bass light in comparison lmao...

 

[Sam Edwards]

The hugo is a killer DAC. One of my best HP purchases. I agree about the powering, but nothing's perfect. 
Quote:

  Majority of those all-in-one battery powered AMP/DACs are similar priced, any recommendation which one stands out? Perhaps the market with high end portable players - do some of them serve also as AMP + DAC? (FIIO X5? But it looks like it is just a DAC and it is meant to be used with another connected AMP)
I personally like the ADL X1, but the FiiO E18 should be for its price a good choice.
Chord Hugo seems to be the category winner, but it looks like there is no other way to charge it, than to carry separate battery charger instead of charging it through USB.
I don’t look for any connection with iDevice or Android. I just need the superb portable USB powered DAC/AMP for my Macbook Pro.

£1,400 Chord Hugo
http://chordelectronics.co.uk/products-info.asp?id=92
£785 Resonessence Concero HP
http://resonessencelabs.com/concero/
£485 ADL X1
http://www.adl-av.com/products/headphone_amplifiers/x1/
$285 iBasso D12 Anaconda
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63
$279 Leckerton UHA-6S.MKII + ADA 4627
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
$399 Leckerton UHA 760
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha760
$249 JDS C5D
http://www.jdslabs.com/products/84/c5d-amplifier-dac/
$159 FiiO E18
http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000049935442&MenuID=105026002

 

[Sam Edwards]

  Whoa. I've been noticing that I use SE846 way more than I use UERM. I feel like coloration is good. It fits my personal taste perfectly. Anyways, I still think UERM is technically superior on almost all aspects(besides bass). I just really really like Shure's sound sig.

Glad I found this thread. It's an interesting read.  Glad to see so many  other UERM lovers. I loved the comment about appreciating the UERM but enjoying the SE846. I was hoping for a suggestion for a complimentary fun (bassier) CIEM/IEM. Sometime you feel like an engineer and sometimes you just want to groove. All things equal I would probably prefer an IEM. Universal Roxanne? IE800? SE846?
TIA

 

[imackler]

   HD800?

IE800?

 

[Sam Edwards]

  IE800?

Fixed! Thx!

 

[nicoguy]

Though this thread is aimed at higher price tag iems, some lower ones should be mentioned as well.. On my Ibasso HDP R10 the quality difference between my JH16Pro ($1200) and FA-4E XB ($500) is just absolutely minimal. Rumbling bass, great consistency and comparable resolution over the entire range and high treble extension.. Let it in the top performers!

 

[kimvictor]

   
You couldn't hear the 9dB variance of the "normal" frequency response?  It's a change that is greater than swapping the white for black filters.  Odd.

No no. It's not affected in a sense that it still has respectable SQ with the 22ohm OI. Other iems just sounds like total crap with 22ohm OI. UERM especially, as well as IM04.

 

[kimvictor]

  Glad I found this thread. It's an interesting read.  Glad to see so many  other UERM lovers. I loved the comment about appreciating the UERM but enjoying the SE846. I was hoping for a suggestion for a complimentary fun (bassier) CIEM/IEM. Sometime you feel like an engineer and sometimes you just want to groove. All things equal I would probably prefer an IEM. Universal Roxanne? IE800? SE846?
TIA

I wasn't a big fan of Roxanne or IE800. I say all of them have superb bass. Mids, IE800 and SE846 does it a bit better, but for treble, Roxanne beats it all. I guess it's a matter of preference.

 

[SilverEars]

846 has unnatural treble.

 

[tupac0306]

  846 has unnatural treble.

like roxanne

 

[robm321]

  Though this thread is aimed at higher price tag iems, some lower ones should be mentioned as well.. On my Ibasso HDP R10 the quality difference between my JH16Pro ($1200) and FA-4E XB ($500) is just absolutely minimal. Rumbling bass, great consistency and comparable resolution over the entire range and high treble extension.. Let it in the top performers!

 
I agree, listening to my Ety ER4S while my Roxanne's are away, the Ety's absolutely play in the same league with better clarity, speed and treble extension. We are getting ripped off no doubt 

 

  I wasn't a big fan of Roxanne or IE800. I say all of them have superb bass. Mids, IE800 and SE846 does it a bit better, but for treble, Roxanne beats it all. I guess it's a matter of preference.

 
Which is sad because the Roxanne treble is rolled off also. I'm not sure why its so hard to have quality/extended treble at these prices when Etymotic nailed it in the beginning. 

 

[tomscy2000]

The Roxanne has Jerry's best treble performance by far. It might come off as unnatural in timbre compared to the ER4 because the spectral decay pattern is different, and has certain, more minor resonance spikes here and there (perhaps less prominent with the CIEM version), but it's still the best of Jerry Harvey's stuff.
 
It's too bad the Roxanne's bass adjustment knob doesn't set the lowest setting at something closer to neutral. The Roxanne starts at JH13 levels of bass and only goes up --- way up. The JH13 bass level should be set at perhaps 1/3, with the JH16 level at 2/3 of the way, and the basshead insanity at full twist. That's one reason for the loss in apparent clarity over things that are very close to dead neutral like the ER4. But Jerry proclaimed during his talk at Google that he will never, ever tune things to be dead neutral, so don't keep your hopes up.
 
It's also too bad the ergonomics of the universal Roxanne are silly stupid. It has worse ergonomics than the TF10, and that's saying a lot.
 
It's triply too bad that some customers have been waiting seven to eight months for the custom Roxanne and still haven't gotten it. That should be completely unacceptable for any company, much less a company as prominent as JHA. I thought their customer service would improve after their upper management musical chairs arrangement, but it seems to be just as poor as ever.

 

[robm321]

^ good points all around. I think their customer service may be their downfall. Its as bad as ever. I've lost all respect for the company. Now that there is competition as good or better depending on preference, they are doing nothing but hurting their future at least in the consumer market. 

 

[AmberOzL]

All I can say, I will never ever do any business with JHA and their un-etic customer service even if they brought the best-holy cow-awesome-over 9000 good sounding ciems. No way man. I prefer to throw my money in thrash rather than becoming their customer.