[joseph69]

really, im considering ZHAL if you can find one anyway....

You can find one here

 

[awesomenatorrad]

I have a susvara coming in for the first time and I will be pairing it with a Burson soloist 3x gt, I was thinking of just using the Himalaya r2r dac in my hifiman, is it advisable to get a better dac and what synergy would I be looking for? Preferably it will have a small desktop footprint.

 

[Frankie D]

Bliss is not the way to go if you don’t want the smoothed out upper and lower sound. Zahl and WA33 offer more dynamics, more clarity, and you get the extension in both ends. The DAC is also really important for this. Not sure what @smodtactical is using but Holo DAC, Bliss, and Susvara are all tuned similarly with that clean but smoothed out sound.

I would disagree. The Bliss has punch and is not overly smooth. It sounds great with Susvara and literally trades blows with my MK465. Granted mine is attached to my May DAC, but I have also used it directly from my Cayin N8 DAP. The Bliss is not what I would call a warm amp which allows it work well with warmer HPs as well like the ZMF Atruim Closed and OG Emoyrean in addition to the Susvara.

 

[Frankie D]

You can find one here

That looks like a deal, especially if he would go down to $7000. I have one on order already so not for me.

 

[briantrinh86]

I have a susvara coming in for the first time and I will be pairing it with a Burson soloist 3x gt, I was thinking of just using the Himalaya r2r dac in my hifiman, is it advisable to get a better dac and what synergy would I be looking for? Preferably it will have a small desktop footprint.

The hugo tt2 + mscaler stack is a good option to consider. It’s an excellent dac from chord

 

[Chronos]

I would disagree. The Bliss has punch and is not overly smooth. It sounds great with Susvara and literally trades blows with my MK465. Granted mine is attached to my May DAC, but I have also used it directly from my Cayin N8 DAP. The Bliss is not what I would call a warm amp which allows it work well with warmer HPs as well like the ZMF Atruim Closed and OG Emoyrean in addition to the Susvara.

I've owned Bliss KTE and WA33 side-by-side and did A-B comparisons both with Spring 3 KTE and May KTE as the DAC's. I didn't say it doesn't sound great with the Susvara, I think it synergizes extremely well. I agree it drives the Susvara plenty well with great note weight. I also agree its not a warm amp, its neutral but slightly warmer than others. That isn't what I'm pointing out, its simply a response to the poster who asked how to avoid the Susvara sounding too smooth, which I know it can sound like with certain setups. Its simply the tuning of the Bliss that is made to match the Susvara and Holo DAC's which are more smooth and less dynamic than say a WA33. Its the same difference as a Holo May vs. Wavedream or DAVE.

 

[Frankie D]

I've owned Bliss KTE and WA33 side-by-side and did A-B comparisons both with Spring 3 KTE and May KTE as the DAC's. I didn't say it doesn't sound great with the Susvara, I think it synergizes extremely well. I agree it drives the Susvara plenty well with great note weight. I also agree its not a warm amp, its neutral but slightly warmer than others. That isn't what I'm pointing out, its simply a response to the poster who asked how to avoid the Susvara sounding too smooth, which I know it can sound like with certain setups. Its simply the tuning of the Bliss that is made to match the Susvara and Holo DAC's which are more smooth and less dynamic than say a WA33. Its the same difference as a Holo May vs. Wavedream or DAVE.

I understand that. My point was I do not consider the Bliss to be an overly smooth amplifier. It was made to compliment the smoothness of the May DAC ( not that the May DAC is overly smooth or lacking in detail ). It also is allot less expensive than the WA33, especially if you option it out. In any event I do consider it an option, but you do not. We may simply have different ideas about what we would call a smooth sound. No issue there.

 

[Chronos]

I understand that. My point was I do not consider the Bliss to be an overly smooth amplifier. It was made to compliment the smoothness of the May DAC ( not that the May DAC is overly smooth or lacking in detail ). It also is allot less expensive than the WA33, especially if you option it out. In any event I do consider it an option, but you do not. We may simply have different ideas about what we would call a smooth sound. No issue there.

Funny thing is I just watched the ConvinceMeAudio's re-review of Susvara and he happens to mention how he considers the Mass Kobo 465, Amp&Sound Red October, on the warmer side vs. Zahl HM1, WA33, and AIC-10 as more reference sounding.

 

[TDHEAD]

I would disagree. The Bliss has punch and is not overly smooth. It sounds great with Susvara and literally trades blows with my MK465. Granted mine is attached to my May DAC, but I have also used it directly from my Cayin N8 DAP. The Bliss is not what I would call a warm amp which allows it work well with warmer HPs as well like the ZMF Atruim Closed and OG Emoyrean in addition to the Susvara.

Wow.......trades blows with your KOBO? Love to hear more about that. Id have a Lina stack and looking at the Lina AMP vs others that best support Susvara's capabilities

 

[Whazzzup]

There’s a reason Lina is not on sus list

 

[TDHEAD]

There’s a reason Lina is not on sus list

Please share, genuinely interested to hear

 

[Bootycall922]

When I lean my head to the left. I can hear Squeaky sound on the metal part on the Susvara. Is this a cause for concern?

 

[Exekuhtor]

When I lean my head to the left. I can hear Squeaky sound on the metal part on the Susvara. Is this a cause for concern?

Lube the turning mechanism.

 

[Bootycall922]

Lube the turning mechanism.

I dont know how to describe the sound. Sometimes its like the steel band or screw is knocking onto something. Is it related to the squeaky sound? Thanks.

 

[theveterans]

There’s a reason Lina is not on sus list

Sounds really great with Caldera Open, but not competitive with the Sus