[thecrow]

Does the new signature have more power?

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/hifiman-susvara.853031/page-862#post-16702814

 

[Menkau-ra]

I believe the specs list it at the same power but I’ve owned both the last Gen and this new model now and the new model sounds more powerful to me. It likely comes down to the power supply and a quieter noise floor though. I’m thinking at this point I just sell my Ferrum Oor stack along with my WA22 and keep the ifi, it’s just too much bang for the buck.

you prefer iFi over Oor? Interesting.

 

[OneEyedHito]

you prefer iFi over Oor? Interesting.

Not a sonic preference but a dollars to donuts preference if that makes sense. As with a lot of equipment in this hobby the pts of difference at a certain level get very very miniscule.

 

[iFi audio]

yes, for the price it is a solid amp..there are better for sure but you could do worse

Yes, he could

Can iFi Pro iCAN drive Susvara properly?

Pro iCAN can drive them comfortably, which is quite the achievement considering its size, but there's no exaggeration in saying that there's no end to amps when it comes down to Susvara.

iFi's performance to size ratio is second to none. For that they recieve kudos.

I have used the older model and it was a winning combo with the TC (and quite good with the Sus).

Thank you!

 

[iFi audio]

It likely comes down to the power supply and a quieter noise floor though.

Exactly. Although in case os Susvara power factors in more than with any other similar headphones, a PSU's quietness and ability to keep up with demand plays the part in making sound sensibly more controlling.

Sorry for double! And since we're at it, have a happy holiday all of you here!

 

[FiGuY1017]

Susvara through Kinki Studio Thr-1 + M2 Tech Young Mkiv + VGMkII is soundstage king of all amps I've heard. The best way I can describe it is, if you took the whole of the music picture and exploded it into infinite space in all directions, yet every part remained intact. That's it, can't see anything wanting.. because my Imagination can't picture music any better than this.

I removed my topaz iso transformer from Kinki, and above was the result.

 

[alavenue]

Just ordered a Susvara and Burson timekeeper 3i to power them and the LQI banana to XLR cable, super excited!!

Now I have to decide between fss or normal sheepskin dekoni pads and maybe a new headphone stand.

I'll probably be selling everything else I own besides QDC Anole VX

 

[EMINENT]

Not a sonic preference but a dollars to donuts preference if that makes sense. As with a lot of equipment in this hobby the pts of difference at a certain level get very very miniscule.

Ever had GS-X Mini and if so comparison to iCan and Signature?

 

[Menkau-ra]

Exactly. Although in case os Susvara power factors in more than with any other similar headphones, a PSU's quietness and ability to keep up with demand plays the part in making sound sensibly more controlling.

I see that Ferrum Hypsos supports iFi Pro iCan. Will it be better than iPower Elite? Would Susvara benefit from it?

 

[801evan]

Look at that m17 drive the Susvara. If it can drive it that well then most amps can drive it. It's just a matter of clean power. In comparison you can see he has a McIntosh HP Amp demo and it's struggling in comparison.

 

[801evan]

I see that Ferrum Hypsos supports iFi Pro iCan. Will it be better than iPower Elite? Would Susvara benefit from it?

Ipower elite is much better than Hypsos. I've modded the both and even a modded Hypsos can't touch the stock Elite. Though I have a line conditioner on both and it's possible the internal filter of the hypsos is a weak link and causing it to underperform.

 

[LarsMan]

Look at that m17 drive the Susvara. If it can drive it that well then most amps can drive it. It's just a matter of clean power. In comparison you can see he has a McIntosh HP Amp demo and it's struggling in comparison.

I'm sure it will get plenty loud enough - yes, most amps can drive it to be louder than you could stand. It's a matter of the quality/current of that power. I'd guess that my Auris Nirvana tube amp sounds a lot better (to me, anyway) than any DAP in existence. I'd guess most of the amps mentioned on this thread would. Better bass, better mids, better everything. Some guy's video isn't putting a set of headphones on my head to hear for myself.

Happy Holidays!!!

 

[801evan]

A tube amp would be relying on it's own 2nd harmonics distortion to color the incoming signal than actually faithfully playback the music signal. It may sound better for most people but, not faithful, especially if compared to something like how the m17 outputs the signal.

 

[LarsMan]

A tube amp would be relying on it's own 2nd harmonics distortion to color the incoming signal than actually faithfully playback the music signal. It may sound better for most people but, not faithful, especially if compared to something like how the m17 outputs the signal.

Merry Christmas!
A Topping amp might be more faithful and measure better, but how many people would prefer listening to the Topping over Woo WA-33, for example? I don't concern myself overmuch about 'faithfully' - what 'sounds better' is all I care about; I'm enjoying listening to music - it's fun!! BTW, my apartment # is '801', as is the name of one of my favorite bands!

 

[801evan]

Merry Christmas!
A Topping amp might be more faithful and measure better, but how many people would prefer listening to the Topping over Woo WA-33, for example? I don't concern myself overmuch about 'faithfully' - what 'sounds better' is all I care about; I'm enjoying listening to music - it's fun!! BTW, my apartment # is '801', as is the name of one of my favorite bands!

Toppings have poor psu implementation so that's why it's weak in the power quality factor (despite having enough power quantity) and wouldn't properly drive the susvara and is not a great example. The Topping amp has a cheap smps inside and uses nested feedback. Hence, the m17 is a better example. This is also why my Phonitor one with ifi Elite and sparkos pros sounds better than much beefier amps in driving the Susvara.