[paradoxper]

I am looking for thoughts and opinons of how well the susvara pairs with tube amps. Nearly everyone i know that has a susvara says it pairs the best with a solid state amp. what does everyone think?

Need to exploit further context. Solid state or tube can sound good, either way.

If you might find the Susvara a little lacking in leading attack, or a little more soft in bass, solid state can help in mitigation.
If you find those qualities fine, and want to exploit a little larger staging, better layering and three dimensional presentation, tube can help in mitigation.

No cure-alls.

 

[jlbrach]

I own both the susvara and the ifi and I wouldnt even imagine using the 2 together but hey I guess thats why we all hear differently...lets just say with all tthe discussion about speaker amps and susvara I would say admirably is a bit of a stretch but yes they can drive them

 

[LarsMan]

I am looking for thoughts and opinons of how well the susvara pairs with tube amps. Nearly everyone i know that has a susvara says it pairs the best with a solid state amp. what does everyone think?

I prefer tube amps to SS for headphones, and there are a number of tube amps that were made to supply enough power for the Susvara; one such is the Auris Nirvana, and I'm expecting delivery on that this week.... My Eddie Current Studio B is perfect for my Utopias and can get the Susvaras plenty loud enough, but the sound is too thin; Nirvana has way more power than that.

 

[Pashmeister]

I just listened with that pair for 1.5hrs. Sounded fine.
https://www.hifiplus.com/articles/i...portable-headphone-amp-preamp-and-dac/?page=2

Oof. I dunno what tracks you use, but a Susvara on these is pretty lacking. And I had the newer iFi Signature and the more powerful Diablo, still those were not enough.

 

[atya35mm]

The WA33 is pretty solid state sounding for a tube amp.

Second this. I lost the urge to try other amps once I had the WA33. Previous amps I've tried with the Susvara are Topping A90 and Cayin HA6A. Don't neglect the DAC component either, that should be at least on par budget wise with whatever amp you decides on.

 

[Spawn300Z]

My findings on Susvara:
2. Portable DAC / AMP like iFi iDSD Micro BL can admirably drive these

The only portable amp that may drive these admirably would be the Cayin C9. But I didn’t even waste my time hooking them up to my Susvaras. I feel that would be a grave injustice to that headphone. But I do use the C9 for my Diana V2s, with outstanding results.

 

[NoTimeFor]

I am looking for thoughts and opinons of how well the susvara pairs with tube amps. Nearly everyone i know that has a susvara says it pairs the best with a solid state amp. what does everyone think?

I have McIntosh MHA200 and it sounds fine. However, I listen at 35 to 45 dBL for most of my listening. IMO, If you need to listen 65 or more dBL, I say look else where.

 

[NoTimeFor]

The only portable amp that may drive these admirably would be the Cayin C9. But I didn’t even waste my time hooking them up to my Susvaras. I feel that would be a grave injustice to that headphone. But I do use the C9 for my Diana V2s, with outstanding results.

Where I'm coming from is if someone has money to buy Susvara, and they hesitate buying one because they do not have a powerful (and expensive) amp, I am encouraging the people to get Susvara because they can still enjoy it (experience may vary however). These Cans are awesome.

 

[llamaluv]

I have McIntosh MHA200 and it sounds fine. However, I listen at 35 to 45 dBL for most of my listening. IMO, If you need to listen 65 or more dBL, I say look else where.

35-45 dB is the daytime ambient noise level in my NYC apartment

 

[Pashmeister]

Where I'm coming from is if someone has money to buy Susvara, and they hesitate buying one because they do not have a powerful (and expensive) amp, I am encouraging the people to get Susvara because they can still enjoy it (experience may vary however). These Cans are awesome.

I had an HE1000se and I think they sound better than an under-driven Susvara. I would recommend someone to get an HE1000se instead of a Susvara with sub par amplification. This way they will get a better sonic experience for less cash and less amp requirement

 

[NoTimeFor]

35-45 dB is the daytime ambient noise level in my NYC apartment

Perhaps then NYC peeps need closed cans.

 

[Johnlovemusic]

Respect for Hifiman!

 

[Spawn300Z]

I had an HE1000se and I think they sound better than an under-driven Susvara. I would recommend someone to get an HE1000se instead of a Susvara with sub par amplification. This way they will get a better sonic experience for less cash and less amp requirement

I still have them and enjoy them.

 

[barbz127]

Is anyone else of the belief that you need to listen to the susvara +70db for it to sound right/enjoyable?

At lower volumes, 55-60db which is where I listen it tends to loose the dynamics (even with a eq'd bass shelf) and to me is a bit boring.

Amplifier is a ps audio s300.

 

[LarsMan]

Is anyone else of the belief that you need to listen to the susvara +70db for it to sound right/enjoyable?

At lower volumes, 55-60db which is where I listen it tends to loose the dynamics (even with a eq'd bass shelf) and to me is a bit boring.

Amplifier is a ps audio s300.

What kind of DAC are you using? That can make a very large difference.... What I wasn't enjoying all that much out of the DAVE/M Scaler combination, though I did enjoy it - it's great gear! - I enjoyed a whole lot more with a Holo May Kitsune....