[nicolo]

  Very interesting. Nice dac/amp. But for now is little to much 1600€.
Im looking in 1000€ rang.
 
regards,
Simon

 
The only other DAC/Amp combo i can think of which has both the tonality and power you require to drive is the iFi Micro iDSD. The iFi house sound is basically resolving, neutral to slightly warm. It also fits into your budget at $549 for the "Black" label edition of the iDSD. Link below:
 
https://www.amazon.com/iFi-Micro-iDSD-Black-Label/dp/B01MTNK3ZT/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482296982&sr=8-2&keywords=ifi+audio+micro+idsd
 
Reviews:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/products/ifi-audio-micro-idsd/reviews/17626
http://majorhifi.com/ifi-micro-idsd-black-label-dac-review/
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/11/ifi-audios-black-label-micro-idsd-can-go-everywhere-you-do/
http://www.head-fi.org/products/ifi-audio-micro-idsd/reviews/17561

 

[simon740]

Thank you all for your suggestions. I'll think about it.

Otherwise, I had on test some time IFI micro idsd + HD800. It was not bad.
But that combination sounded so bleak, soulless. Not musically.
 
Black Label is interesting. Otherwise, I should hear how will match with HE-560.
 
What about Jotunheim or Lyr 2 ?
 
 
 
regards,
Simon

 

[Russian1]

That's the thing I'm in high gain and I'm not deaf" something isn't right..
(from my memory) on my ican (mine are without Se though) it's pretty normal. 
At least close to 12 o'clock. On the lowest gain. 

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If it is in high gain something is probably very wrong. 

 

[FiGuY1017]

If it is in high gain something is probably very wrong. 

that's what I'm thinking,sounds great though and still can't come close to max volume. .o well. Thanks for the input.

 

[simon740]

So,
for a start I think I took a Gustard H10 (used). And then something more serious. What do you think?
 
regards,
Simon
 

 

[tvnosaint]

It's a solid amp. At least for a starter. Well documented synergy with the he560. Plenty of power

 

[simon740]

I read everythink about H10
And because my friend have Violectric V200 + HE-560 - with him I was just fascinated by the HE-560, I think, that this clone will be Ok for start.

 

[Madman242]

The H10 is probably the most recommended pairing on here, followed maybe by the Lyr2. I have a Lyr2 and keep getting tempted by the H10 because it's brought up so often. I have to keep telling myself it's just a "grass is always greener" thing.

 

[simon740]

  The H10 is probably the most recommended pairing on here, followed maybe by the Lyr2. I have a Lyr2 and keep getting tempted by the H10 because it's brought up so often. I have to keep telling myself it's just a "grass is always greener" thing.

 

[tvnosaint]

The H10 is probably the most recommended pairing on here, followed maybe by the Lyr2. I have a Lyr2 and keep getting tempted by the H10 because it's brought up so often. I have to keep telling myself it's just a "grass is always greener" thing.

I have the 1st lyr. With the right tubes I prefer it over the h10. Even with the burson v5s. But I spent a lot of money to find the tubes that make the lyr better. Cca or e88cc Heerlens .

 

[DavidA]

  The H10 is probably the most recommended pairing on here, followed maybe by the Lyr2. I have a Lyr2 and keep getting tempted by the H10 because it's brought up so often. I have to keep telling myself it's just a "grass is always greener" thing.

After trying the H10 for a few days I liked the Lyr2 better only because I could change its tone a little with tubes but as @tvnosaint noted the tubes and be quite pricy, 75' Reflektors, Telefunken CCa, and Siemens Lorenz.

 

[VerBla]

Can most definitely recommend the Violectric V100's for the HE560's Bought it a week ago and haven't been able to wipe the grin of my face that I have had since then listening to my combo: Mojo->V100->HE560. 
 
Also I can advice against using the HE560's with the Schiit Lyr. First edition I believe it was. Makes them sound dull, lifeless and very boring. Felt like; is this really the same headphone I'm listening to right now?

 

[iclckjohn]

Hello, new here. Got my HE560 for Christmas. Love love loved them. Put through a 40 watt Sony HapS1 music server. Listened to everything in my library for three days straight. Hmmmmm what's this distortion in the lows? But only on a few songs I.e. Bob Weir's voice lol, some Flaminco Obsession, well then I found most stuff with multiple instruments during a loud moment. Sent them back to Razerdog who was so nice to say they would replace them no questions. So found this forum while waiting. Question. If it is in the recording shouldn't there be a some of the same sound at lower volumes? And here is the VERY strange thing, I listened to each ear cup independently. I thought they both had the distortion. And through my reference system (PrimaLuna tube amp, Triton Ones) I don't hear the distortion. So confused as to whether it is the 560 or the recordings. Are there any other tests that could isolate the culprit?

 

[DavidA]

 
Also I can advice against using the HE560's with the Schiit Lyr. First edition I believe it was. Makes them sound dull, lifeless and very boring. Felt like; is this really the same headphone I'm listening to right now?

As a few of us noted above, with the Lyr/Lyr2 it depends on the tubes used.
 

Hello, new here. Got my HE560 for Christmas. Love love loved them. Put through a 40 watt Sony HapS1 music server. Listened to everything in my library for three days straight. Hmmmmm what's this distortion in the lows? But only on a few songs I.e. Bob Weir's voice lol, some Flaminco Obsession, well then I found most stuff with multiple instruments during a loud moment. Sent them back to Razerdog who was so nice to say they would replace them no questions. So found this forum while waiting. Question. If it is in the recording shouldn't there be a some of the same sound at lower volumes? And here is the VERY strange thing, I listened to each ear cup independently. I thought they both had the distortion. And through my reference system (PrimaLuna tube amp, Triton Ones) I don't hear the distortion. So confused as to whether it is the 560 or the recordings. Are there any other tests that could isolate the culprit?

Are you using the headphone output of the HAP-S1?  If so, it might not have enough output to drive the HE-560 properly.  I couldn't find any specs on the headphone section of the HAP-S1

 

[conquerator2]

Yup, had the same thing happen to me with a Marantz receiver. Seems like a receiver thing. It'd be best to test with at least one different amp first, can even be your phone; seems like receivers might struggle more with distortion regarding power hungry headphones than anything else.