katzolik
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sorry double post!
the sibilance of the 400i is really messing me up.
It is sooo much harsher as the 400s.
Harsher than the old ATH M50.
And even harsher the Superlux 668b.
And i don't know why.
=(
Hey I am buying meze and akg k712 and for 3rd headphone I want something different so oppo pm3 or nighthawks or hifiman he400i?
actually I don't coz I will be using them at my room only so it doesn't matterHave you not got a preference between open or closed for your next set?
Hey I am buying meze and akg k712 and for 3rd headphone I want something different so oppo pm3 or nighthawks or hifiman he400i?
for soundstage,treble and mids akg k712 and meze are there but there bass is not that muchI have both the PM-3 and the 400i. I recommend both (not either), but if you have to pick one, it's really going to depend on your preferences.
My PM-3's are warmer across the board and have slightly less sibilance on than the 400i's. The 400i's are also more neutral with less bass presence, a more airy and open sound, and much wider soundstage. So slightly more sibilance (instead of much more) is actually impressive. The 400i are nicely detailed and separated through the mids and treble, but a little bass-light for my taste and a bit lacking in sub-bass. They do respond well to the bass boost on my amp though. Much less weight and impact than the PM-3's, but that's a trade-off for the much wider soundstage and the better imaging across the spectrum.
In short, if you prefer weight, impact, and bass presence, go with the PM-3. If you prefer soundstage, airy treble, and a more neutral tone, go for the 400i.
for soundstage,treble and mids akg k712 and meze are there but there bass is not that much
currently I am leaning more towards nighthawks,oppo and then hifimanUnfortunately, that's going to be the trade-off for every headphone. Those things tend to be fairly mutually exclusive.
Also, the soundstage on the 400i is good, but it's not great. I have a couple of much cheaper cans that top it for soundstage. I wouldn't be surprised if the K712 or the Meze topped it there too. That being said, it's not bad. I think some reviewers have understated its size.
I'd just go for the Fulla2, ModiMultibit, Vali2 or jotenheim and skip the modi/magni level.
actually I don't coz I will be using them at my room only so it doesn't matter
snip I'm no expert but I'd like to see if I can experience it. snip
the sibilance of the 400i is really messing me up.
It is sooo much harsher as the 400s.
Harsher than the old ATH M50.
And even harsher the Superlux 668b.
And i don't know why.
=(
Why?
I haven't been fatigued by the 400i with sibilance so I'm curious what produces the sensation. I've been to one "meet" and honestly I was surprised by the volume at which people listen to headphones. Maybe I'm prone to the same sibilance, but just don't push them to high enough volumes for long enough durations.
The whole headfi experience in my opinion is based on verbal perception and interpretation coupled with our personal experience. I've heard several comments say there is sibilance, others say there isn't. I'd like to hear what's perceived as sibilance on the 400i. I don't get high frequency sensitivity from the 400i.