HiBy RS6 Android DAP - Snapdragon 660, 4+64GB, 5” full HD, Darwin R2R, FIR, NOS, MQA 16x, copper chassis

[Joe Bloggs]

Ok I found them, but how they work?

You don't want to have them all ticked doing nothing (you can't be sure they are actually doing nothing, and if they are, they're wasting your player's battery)

The convolution thing is really something for someone like me to craft you a custom file to enhance your particular earphones for your listening. It's unfortunately a very involved process to design a file for it but the results can be astonishing.

The sound field is just a slider for increasing / decreasing stereo separation.

The balance is a simple left / right balance knob.

If you want to play with convolution, either refer to the guide to the convolution plugin posted earlier in this thread, or describe to me how you find your current main earphones sound on the RS6, what you find good, what you would like improved, what you might want toned down, etc. and I can try to cross-reference that about what is currently known about those earphones, to design a convolution file for you. Sort of like the Darwin bespoke earphone tuning things but more personal and with more parameters to play with.

 

[senseitedj]

Also, is there anyway to access the 'normal' version of EQ on the HiBy?

Have been using MSEB alot, but I would like to try other people's EQ profiles which are listed as discrete frequency bands.

 

[gLer]

Also, is there anyway to access the 'normal' version of EQ on the HiBy?

Have been using MSEB alot, but I would like to try other people's EQ profiles which are listed as discrete frequency bands.

Only in individual apps. There's no system wide traditional EQ.

 

[fabio19]

You don't want to have them all ticked doing nothing (you can't be sure they are actually doing nothing, and if they are, they're wasting your player's battery)

The convolution thing is really something for someone like me to craft you a custom file to enhance your particular earphones for your listening. It's unfortunately a very involved process to design a file for it but the results can be astonishing.

The sound field is just a slider for increasing / decreasing stereo separation.

The balance is a simple left / right balance knob.

If you want to play with convolution, either refer to the guide to the convolution plugin posted earlier in this thread, or describe to me how you find your current main earphones sound on the RS6, what you find good, what you would like improved, what you might want toned down, etc. and I can try to cross-reference that about what is currently known about those earphones, to design a convolution file for you. Sort of like the Darwin bespoke earphone tuning things but more personal and with more parameters to play with.

and once you get here, how do you proceed?

 

[ayanachibi]

Got the unit from @aaf evo ! Will have some impressions tomorrow and comparison with P6P for good measure.

 

[loplop]

Picked up a RS6 last week from Musicteck (great service, as always!) and as it’s starting to settle in I have been playing a bit with the settings.

@Joe Bloggs I believe earlier in the thread you mentioned that you were intending to suggest that the antialiasing filter names be changed to descriptive names. I’d like to second that notion

If I had to guess, Darwin 10 is some sort of linear phase filter. That’s what I’m using it as, at least, when I want that sort of OS linear phase-ish sound. It sure would be easier for me to fool my ear-brain if the filters had names—also less time consuming with intent listening. I prefer to listen to music rather than figure these out, but sometimes I want something other than the NOS sound, so..

Also, I believe someone above was commenting that OS is only applied to MQA. I believe you have to explicitly turn NOS off, then adjust filters away from Darwin Default to hear the various filters applied with OS. Idk if any of those are changing the OS rate (Joe?), that would be cool, if so.

Does anyone know how to switch the forward/rewind buttons? I’d prefer the top to be FFWD and the bottom of be RWD.

In any case, I’m enjoying it over the last day or so. It’s definitely a different animal vs my ZX507, and a great improvement over the last Hiby I had (R6 Pro), except form factor (to be expected) and I far prefer volume buttons to a knob.

 

[senseitedj]

Only in individual apps. There's no system wide traditional EQ.

Thanks mate. Would be nice if hiby puts this feature in the future, they already have mseb as foundation

 

[davidmolliere]

i can’t notice any difference with any of the toggles, whether it be nos, a Darwin filter, or the iem profiles. For reference, on the DX300 I could pick out audible differences between each DAC filter relatively easy.

I was about to ask, tried the VE Elysium preset but honestly doesn't seem to affect anything...

 

[GiullianSN]

I was about to ask, tried the VE Elysium preset but honestly doesn't seem to affect anything...

Placebo filters?

Elysium is so good that you need to try hard to mess it up.

 

[aaf evo]

I mean you can take any IEM and apply any other IEM filter, I never heard a difference regardless.

 

[gLer]

I wonder, does NOS need to be switched off to apply/hear filters?

 

[goodvibes]

More $$$ = more better!

LOL, I wish it were that easy.

 

[gofishus]

LOL, I wish it were that easy.

Generally its true but with diminishing returns. My bet is say a $3800 Luxury&Precision LP6 Pro isn't 3 times better sounding than the RS6 but it's better sounding by some percentage. Same with the AK SP2000T or Lotoo Paw Gold Touch or some other expensive DAP. and same with IEMs and headphones and speakers and other products. The higher you get into the price range the law of diminishing returns applies. Somewhere out there I'm sure people are paying for those $10k+ cables just to eke out a 0.1% improvement in sound lol

 

[goodvibes]

Generally its true but with diminishing returns. My bet is say a $3800 Luxury&Precision LP6 Pro isn't 3 times better sounding than the RS6 but it's better sounding by some percentage. Same with the AK SP2000T or Lotoo Paw Gold Touch or some other expensive DAP. and same with IEMs and headphones and speakers and other products. The higher you get into the price range the law of diminishing returns applies. Somewhere out there I'm sure people are paying for those $10k+ cables just to eke out a 0.1% improvement in sound lol

If something is 10% better, whatever that is, but that 10% passes the goose bump threshold, is it worth 50% more, if you say no, you're in this for the wrong reasons. Yours are rationalizations of inexperience. I'm aware of a $10kish cables that make at least a 5% improvement in a $250k system that actually plays music (not hifi) better than less expensive systems. A system I can play in the same room as the performance was recorded in and I'd be happy to prove it to you. I could easily show you a $600 dig cable sound better/more like the source file than the best cheaper one I can find on a $2k DAC.

For me and it's personal, I don't use portable enough and the perspective not there for me to do the megabuck thing here. I certainly understand why someone else would and spending a couple/few grand on portable is not out of hand for me (unfortunately necessary, LOL)if it begins to allow an emotional connection as opposed to just a flavor/perspective change. That said, the amount of information available is much more cost effective than a free air system. I just prefer listening to a good home system, setup correctly, by a noticeable margin. The vast majority aren't very close to right nor do music things much better than a good portable. Also very difficult to get a decent small home setup for less than a few grand anyway.

 

[andersos]

For RS6 and vocal lovers I suggest to try Aroma Star, I can’t believe it’s a single BA.

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