[alxw0w]

The problem is that isn't not just a DAC but it's like connecting a computer to another computer. It's like you were to connect your phone to your computer and use the DAC inside the phone having a continuous connection to the computer, the phone and the DAC inside the phone. The interfacing adds latency.
Because it's a DAP I don't think they can fix this with firmware, every DAP I've had, has had this issue.

I'm aware of that. The thing is your justification "computer to computer" connection is kinda... false.
You can write software/firmware as you wish hence you can get around some of the latency.
To what point it's doable it's another case. Sometimes indeed you cannot get lower latency because of hardware or I should rather say design limitations.

Hence my request for Hiby, if there is still possibility to reduce latency - I'm kindly asking to do so
As for other DAPS, the same thing - maybe it could be done, but maybe it's too much work to fix small thing that not many people request.
As always design choices are not always make from technical reasons but from money/marketing/value point.
Hope that helps.

 

[LongNguyenHorn]

I'm aware of that. The thing is your justification "computer to computer" connection is kinda... false.
You can write software/firmware as you wish hence you can get around some of the latency.
To what point it's doable it's another case. Sometimes indeed you cannot get lower latency because of hardware or I should rather say design limitations.

Hence my request for Hiby, if there is still possibility to reduce latency - I'm kindly asking to do so
As for other DAPS, the same thing - maybe it could be done, but maybe it's too much work to fix small thing that not many people request.
As always design choices are not always make from technical reasons but from money/marketing/value point.
Hope that helps.

So you mean all the brand make Dap just try to get your money the most because almost all of them don't do USB Dac properly right ? Hahaha

 

[alxw0w]

So you mean all the brand make Dap just try to get your money the most because almost all of them don't do USB Dac properly right ? Hahaha

No I've never said that.
You said it. Don't put your words into my mouth.

Designing product is not a Lego playground.
There is a lot of things that are taken into consideration. Many many times you don't do what you really want to do (at least not fully).

As for money .. have you ever own a 'business' ? It seems like not really, hence your confusion.

 

[Baten]

I'm aware of that. The thing is your justification "computer to computer" connection is kinda... false.
You can write software/firmware as you wish hence you can get around some of the latency.

Well I've not seen it done so it must not be easy

 

[alxw0w]

Well I've not seen it done so it must not be easy

Yup, probably it's some design limitation, but I hope that maybe Hiby will figure something out

 

[LongNguyenHorn]

No I've never said that.
You said it. Don't put your words into my mouth.

Designing product is not a Lego playground.
There is a lot of things that are taken into consideration. Many many times you don't do what you really want to do (at least not fully).

As for money .. have you ever own a 'business' ? It seems like not really, hence your confusion.

Hahaha, be sympathy then you will understand

 

[LongNguyenHorn]

As for other DAPS, the same thing - maybe it could be done, but maybe it's too much work to fix small thing that not many people request.
As always design choices are not always make from technical reasons but from money/marketing/value point.
Hope that helps.

Be brave and accept your truly self hahaah

 

[originalsnuffy]

A little too much drama methinks. Its fair to ask for HiBy to look at reducing latency. Of course they may not choose to follow up on that idea or maybe its really hard to do or even can't be done. Time will tell.

I was surprised that using the HiBy app on the iphone and the Apple CCK kit the unit did not show an ability to natively decode DSD when presented with those bitstreams. In DAC mode of course. Now it might be a display issue and it really was doing the job, but the display implied that DSD was being converted to PCM at 24 / 88.

 

[Joe Bloggs]

A little too much drama methinks. Its fair to ask for HiBy to look at reducing latency. Of course they may not choose to follow up on that idea or maybe its really hard to do or even can't be done. Time will tell.

I was surprised that using the HiBy app on the iphone and the Apple CCK kit the unit did not show an ability to natively decode DSD when presented with those bitstreams. In DAC mode of course. Now it might be a display issue and it really was doing the job, but the display implied that DSD was being converted to PCM at 24 / 88.

What about the display on the iPhone end?

 

[originalsnuffy]

What about the display on the iPhone end?

I was using the HiBy app on the iphone which definitely is capable of passing DSD files. I don't recall the phone showing anything unusual.

I have used the app to play SACD ISO files to my Ztella dongle and it shows up there as DSD (there is a light to show what is going on).

But using the Apple CCK the R5 Gen 2 shows 24 - 88 in DAC mode.

I mentioned that in my review BTW.

Please don't misunderstand, the sound quality was good. But it appears that the DSD was converted to PCM.

 

[UrbanAnimism777]

I was wondering if anyone has compared the R5 gen2 with the R6 2020? I can get the R6 for around 200 dollars more ATM, so I was wondering if the difference in price is worth it.

 

[Cabalsoljea]

I was wondering if anyone has compared the R5 gen2 with the R6 2020? I can get the R6 for around 200 dollars more ATM, so I was wondering if the difference in price is worth it.

Not an owner, but this makes me wonder.

Especially since the R5ii have the Class-A implementation.

 

[psikey]

This DAP is an Android wonder with standby/off.

Seems to consume next to no power when off unlike many devices. You can just power it on (~30s) and have confidence its still ready to go.

 

[dougms3]

This DAP is an Android wonder with standby/off.

Seems to consume next to no power when off unlike many devices. You can just power it on (~30s) and have confidence its still ready to go.

Mine rips thru the battery even when it's off.

 

[psikey]

Mine rips thru the battery even when it's off.

Why?

I'm at 24 days without a charge. I am only using in eco mode with Hiby Music, WiFi/BT off at the moment or a bit of offline Tidal/Spotify tracks.