HEDD Announces HEDDphone With AMT Technology
Jan 11, 2020 at 9:20 AM Post #631 of 4,488
-Bass is not bad. Rather hard impact, phat and thick due to the lower harmonics of the bass being emphasised by the lowermid gain.
-Presentation can be a deal breaker for some. It's very closed in IMO. The lower mids and treble clearly dominate the stage sometimes.

Overall decent. But definitely not to my taste. I think the texture is the best part about the headphone. I do think it has ways to go with its staging/presentation though. FR is a tuning choice so if HEDD like the tonal balance, I won't dispute that.

I have yet to hear them, so I’m not disputing any of your impressions. But I can’t help but wonder how your impressions can be the near polar opposite of Resolve Reviews. He says their bass is very tight and articulate but slightly lean. He says the upper mids are NOT as dipped as most headphones. And he says their imaging and stage are the best he’s ever heard...
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 9:22 AM Post #632 of 4,488
I have yet to hear them, so I’m not disputing any of your impressions. But I can’t help but wonder how your impressions can be the near polar opposite of Resolve Reviews. He says their bass is very tight and articulate but slightly lean. He says the upper mids are NOT as dipped as most headphones. And he says their imaging and stage are the best he’s ever heard...
He seems to say if you want bass impact you will need to use the power of EQ.
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 9:30 AM Post #633 of 4,488
I have yet to hear them, so I’m not disputing any of your impressions. But I can’t help but wonder how your impressions can be the near polar opposite of Resolve Reviews. He says their bass is very tight and articulate but slightly lean. He says the upper mids are NOT as dipped as most headphones. And he says their imaging and stage are the best he’s ever heard...

I tend to like basslight stuff more with a good amount of uppermids, which is why HEDDphone has too much lower mids for me. The presence of the amount of lower mids make the bass a bit too thick.

Staging wise I find that they are really closed in. Everything is in front of my face. Another thing I didn't add in my post above is that the staging is elevated. Typically headphones and iems present the sound leveled to my head. The HEDD sounds like the music is playing slightly higher than usual. I'm not sure why this is happening - I've adjusted the fit numerous times and came to the same conclusion.
 
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Jan 11, 2020 at 9:33 AM Post #634 of 4,488
At the same time I did a comparison to the utopia so you know what I'm comparing against:

-Hedd does texture better. No competition. Utopia sounds smoothed out and too polite in comparison

-Utopia has an FR and presentation that I prefer over HEDD. Utopia has elevated uppermids (from what I define as natural). I find that Utopia is also too recessed in the lower treble but has a uppermid boost. Results in uneven cymbals.

-HEDD has better bass and texture. Utopia could use more bass in general as well. The lowermid presence of the HEDD gives it a greater body and slam to its bass.

-HEDD makes cymbals actually sound like cymbals. Utopia is too polite with crash/ride cymbals.
 
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Jan 11, 2020 at 9:34 AM Post #635 of 4,488
Well, just some thoughts on the HEDDphone as an IEM guy:

-First thing that struck me in the first 20 seconds was the presence of lower mids. Some people can consider it a tad bloated in its presentation.

-Fantastic texture. I can hear the grit on cymbals (partly also because the lower and mid treble is emphasised) and texture on well recorded snares.

-I'd describe the signature as being lower mid, lower and middle treble lifted.

-Uppermids sounds dipped and portrays vocals a bit suppressed/choked out. The moderate lack of uppermids makes electric guitar solos sound too polite and lacking in energy.

-Bass is not bad. Rather hard impact, phat and thick due to the lower harmonics of the bass being emphasised by the lowermid gain. I'd prefer less lower mids for a tighter snap on tom/snare drums.

-Lift in lower and middle treble makes for great metallic texture on cymbals (like it should) but can be too much and aggressive in its portrayal of cymbals. In Steve Vai's tender surrender (Where the Wild Things Are), the cymbals dominate the track with the lead guitar being behind because of the upper midrange dip.

-Presentation can be a deal breaker for some. It's very closed in IMO. The lower mids and treble clearly dominate the stage sometimes.

Overall decent. But definitely not to my taste. I think the texture is the best part about the headphone. I do think it has ways to go with its staging/presentation though. FR is a tuning choice so if HEDD like the tonal balance, I won't dispute that.
I'm curious to know what DAC / Amp was paired with
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 9:37 AM Post #636 of 4,488
I'm curious to know what DAC / Amp was paired with

Matrix X-Sabre Pro and Bryston BHA-1

Edit: I'd also like to add that the Heddphone sounds better for me on lower volumes than on medium or high volumes. The lower volume helps with less body to the lowermids and treble intensity.
 
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Jan 11, 2020 at 9:37 AM Post #637 of 4,488
Well, just some thoughts on the HEDDphone as an IEM guy:

-First thing that struck me in the first 20 seconds was the presence of lower mids. Some people can consider it a tad bloated in its presentation.

-Fantastic texture. I can hear the grit on cymbals (partly also because the lower and mid treble is emphasised) and texture on well recorded snares.

-I'd describe the signature as being lower mid, lower and middle treble lifted.

-Uppermids sounds dipped and portrays vocals a bit suppressed/choked out. The moderate lack of uppermids makes electric guitar solos sound too polite and lacking in energy.

-Bass is not bad. Rather hard impact, phat and thick due to the lower harmonics of the bass being emphasised by the lowermid gain. I'd prefer less lower mids for a tighter snap on tom/snare drums.

-Lift in lower and middle treble makes for great metallic texture on cymbals (like it should) but can be too much and aggressive in its portrayal of cymbals. In Steve Vai's tender surrender (Where the Wild Things Are), the cymbals dominate the track with the lead guitar being behind because of the upper midrange dip.

-Presentation can be a deal breaker for some. It's very closed in IMO. The lower mids and treble clearly dominate the stage sometimes.

Overall decent. But definitely not to my taste. I think the texture is the best part about the headphone. I do think it has ways to go with its staging/presentation though. FR is a tuning choice so if HEDD like the tonal balance, I won't dispute that.
Thank you for your comments. Upper mid and treble sounds rather like what you get from a K812/872 which I thought was more accurate towards cymbals and percussion but a lot of people found it harsh. But hey, this is all speculation. It needs to be auditioned and from what you are saying, it sounds like it has the components to be a very musical and balanced headphone.

HEDD makes cymbals actually sound like cymbals. Utopia is too polite with crash/ride cymbals.
So the HEDD gives you the body and brass shimmer and the Utopia gives more of the air and hiss of cymbals?
 
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Jan 11, 2020 at 9:43 AM Post #638 of 4,488
So the HEDD gives you the body and brass shimmer and the Utopia gives more of the air and hiss of cymbals?

Yes, could say so. The Utopia sounds like it has smoothed out and uneven treble. Due to the unevenness in the utopia, hihats actually sound aggressive while crash/ride sounds polite.
 
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Jan 11, 2020 at 9:51 AM Post #639 of 4,488
-Utopia has an FR and presentation that I prefer over HEDD. Utopia has elevated uppermids (from what I define as natural).

That's exactly what I don't like about Utopia. The elevated upper mids make it very aggressive for me. Just couldn't listen to them more than a few minutes. It feels like the vocals are shouting at my face from a cm distance.
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 9:53 AM Post #640 of 4,488
That's exactly what I don't like about Utopia. The elevated upper mids make it very aggressive for me. Just couldn't listen to them more than a few minutes. It feels like the vocals are shouting at my face from a cm distance.

Couldn’t agree more. I don’t just prefer upper mids that are a little subdued, I can’t really handle them any other way. I don’t like nails on a chalkboard.
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 10:39 AM Post #642 of 4,488
Might be a dumb question but this transducer type is very unique, could or would it benefit/change from burn in? Just a thought

According to HEDD they really don't need any burn in.
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 3:03 PM Post #643 of 4,488
At the same time I did a comparison to the utopia so you know what I'm comparing against:

-Hedd does texture better. No competition. Utopia sounds smoothed out and too polite in comparison

-Utopia has an FR and presentation that I prefer over HEDD. Utopia has elevated uppermids (from what I define as natural). I find that Utopia is also too recessed in the lower treble but has a uppermid boost. Results in uneven cymbals.

-HEDD has better bass and texture. Utopia could use more bass in general as well. The lowermid presence of the HEDD gives it a greater body and slam to its bass.

-HEDD makes cymbals actually sound like cymbals. Utopia is too polite with crash/ride cymbals.

How is the soundstage compared to the Utopia?
 
Jan 11, 2020 at 4:51 PM Post #645 of 4,488
According to HEDD they really don't need any burn in.
Good. Then there can't be any excuses.

Couldn’t agree more. I don’t just prefer upper mids that are a little subdued, I can’t really handle them any other way. I don’t like nails on a chalkboard.
Do you mean subdued or just plain neutral, representing what's on the recording?
 
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