kyrie
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So you say that the HD25 don't have the same visceral impact that your subs do, yet deliver the same "level" of bass. Visceral impact adds a LOT to the perceived amount of bass. In order to bring the bass up to a level where the perceived amount of bass would be equal to that of a speaker, you need to have that much more quantity of bass to cover for the lack of visceral impact. IMO comparing bass in speakers to that in headphones simply don't work.
If you want to start talking about technical stuff, then I might bring up the headroom graphs for the HD25, which seem to clearly support my argument. Whether you find your subjective comparison of headphone bass to speaker sub bass - two totally separate beasts - calibrated using an SPL meter, or the frequency response measured using a specially designed dummy head system more reliable...is not really of interest to me, but I just wanted to point out that your argument is rather weak.
That being said, it may very well be that our difference in opinion comes from our source and amp difference. Case in point, when I tried the HD25 directly from my iHP-120, I found the bass to be greatly dimished in quantity, as to actually match the midrange (though the treble was rather attenuated as well, so I still couldn't call the sound neutral).
If you want to start talking about technical stuff, then I might bring up the headroom graphs for the HD25, which seem to clearly support my argument. Whether you find your subjective comparison of headphone bass to speaker sub bass - two totally separate beasts - calibrated using an SPL meter, or the frequency response measured using a specially designed dummy head system more reliable...is not really of interest to me, but I just wanted to point out that your argument is rather weak.
That being said, it may very well be that our difference in opinion comes from our source and amp difference. Case in point, when I tried the HD25 directly from my iHP-120, I found the bass to be greatly dimished in quantity, as to actually match the midrange (though the treble was rather attenuated as well, so I still couldn't call the sound neutral).