Head-Fit: Software Crossfeed and EQ

[donunus]

Thats probably the one I complained was a little bright for me. The one where I derived those settings that leeperry also really liked.
 
check post#87 Thats probably the setting he is talking about. 

 

[leeperry]

yup, post 87

 

[leeperry]

 

Post your impressions on how the different settings affect the new cans too.

My settings work even better on the CD900ST than they did on the cd3k drivers, it's a much less colored phone...very impressive! I'm now gonna try either the Shure SRH840 or the Victor HP-M1000, still undecided at this point.

 

[donunus]

I guess I am just a junkie for minimalist software because I could have saved so much time setting up headfit if i had just used the pink noise generator from the full version to begin with. When I tried adjusting with pink noise last night, I found out it was very easy to get all the frequencies coherently to one side and that every setting and slider change was very clearly audible when pink noise was panned to one channel. 

Tip... If you want to be as minimalist as possible while being able to set up headfit as flexibly as the full version, just run the exe of the full version to get a good setting and once you get a setting that you are satisfied with, just use it with the ultra minimal version 

By the way, these are the settings that I got when setting headfit up this way...

-8
-21.5
1375
.32
.27

 

[leeperry]

and what's the goal w/ the pink noise? the instructions on the official site are in broken english and don't make much sense to me.

 

[donunus]

The pink noise just makes you hear all the frequencies at once. Tuning the crossfeed with the pink noise on one channel just makes you hear if any of the frequencies bleed separately towards the opposite ear. I ended up with your genius 1375 setting with this method of tuning since anything around that region plus or minus 15hz give a good sense of naturalness in the crossfed signal. The highs cant totally be eliminated from bleeding ever so slightly separately from the other frequencies though no matter how much I adjusted it because going too far compromises other frequencies. 

 

[leeperry]

 

Tuning the crossfeed with the pink noise on one channel just makes you hear if any of the frequencies bleed separately towards the opposite ear.

  

anything around that region plus or minus 15hz give a good sense of naturalness in the crossfed signal.

 

 The highs cant totally be eliminated from bleeding ever so slightly separately from the other frequencies

 

so you never run it in stereo? ...I don't understand

 

[donunus]

I do run it in stereo LOL. Just the tuning part to check for the right amount of natural crossfeed so that the spread is natural is why I test in one channel.

 

[leeperry]

I've tried it, but I've got no idea what to do w/ that pink static...neither your instructions or the official ones make much sense to me...ah well, nevermind! I like my empirical settings

 

[jlo]

Hello,
I'm sorry, I was quite busy in the last months so I couldn't follow forums nor work hard on head-fit.
 
I understand that the major problem is to find the parameters adjusted to your own ears.
For me, music is not the best signal for the setup and I'm still working to find the best test signals.
 
Explanation of the procedure for head-fit :
as somebody said, it is best to adjust with head-fit, find the best values and set same values in lite version.
Parameters ILD, ITD, ... are explained on my website, check http://www.ohl.to/about-audio/audio-softwares/head-fit
 
The easiest way I found is following :
- begin with internal generator set to bonger F1 at 600Hz
- listen to one chanel only
- adjust the position of the sound source with ILD LF slowly moving up from -40dB (ITD LF should be about 0.30 to 0.32ms)
- move this slider so that the apparent source position corresponds to a virtual loudspeaker position
- change signal to pink altern F1/F2, set frequencies to about 800Hz and 2000Hz
- try to adjust to the position of the high frequencies with ILD HF so it seems coming from same position as lower frequencies
- you can adjust F central so to have a smooth transition between both noises
It is not so easy. But up to now, I've not found better signals to adjust. Let me know if you have any ideas.
Values depend from your head/ears and your headphones but you should not be too too far from the default settings, otherwise go back and check.
 
Now I'll come to this forum more frequently so let me know your questions (maybe I could also explain better to leeperry in french !)
 
Cheers
Jean-Luc

 

[donunus]

Thanks For that! I just skipped the directionality part with the bonger and did it just with pink noise to get good fill from left to right. Anyway, I'll try the procedure above and use my speakers as reference for directionality. 

 

[shaddix]

where to download head-lite?!

 

[jlo]

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where to download head-lite?!

 
I'm sorry, I forgot this :
http://www.ohl.to/audio/downloads/head-fit-lite.zip
I didn't want to release the lite version before I find the simplest way to adjust the parameters
For this, I'm sure all of you can help me.

 

[donunus]

I just adjusted the parameters again by adding the procedure you mentioned above and got some different values to get a more frontal stage. As for blending the other parameters other than the ILD LF, I feel more comfortable using the constant sounding correlated pink noise to make sure all the frequencies are stable without leaks from one channel to the other. 
 
As for the version to release, I would just suggest the ultralite version without the volume control to be available for minimalists and the .exe that comes with the standard version zip file to be used for calibration.

 

[ironmine]

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As for the version to release, I would just suggest the ultralite version without the volume control to be available for minimalists and the .exe that comes with the standard version zip file to be used for calibration.

Why "without the volume control"? If you like digital clipping, you can always leave it at 100%