Head-Fit: Software Crossfeed and EQ

[leeperry]

still not hitting the spot for me...I've just tried to mess w/ my settings again, I know they can be improved.
 
touching the top settings doesn't really work, they give a strange sound...either they kill the bass, color the trebles or gives some sort of "phasey" sound. But messing w/ the delays seems to have paid off:
 

 
the reflections seem more natural, I think that's the best I can get but I'll keep messing around...these seem to be the delays my brain likes the most, dub reggae's smoking

 

[leeperry]

this tune is sheer OMG'ness to test head-fit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZmTKdLO08M
 
and yes the last settings I posted are the best to my ears so far...that nasty bassline sounds as 3D as can be

 
EDIT: ah, I dunno...I still prefer my older settings on other tunes.

 

[ironmine]

Donunus,
 
Everybody's got his own unique pinna and ear structure (not to mention different headphones), so your settings are pretty much useless for anybody expect yourself and your clones, if you have any Each person must set up Head-Fit individually for his ears and his headphones. Would you be so kind to stop spamming this thread...

 

[leeperry]

nobody forces you to read it, we're sharing experiences.

 

[ironmine]

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nobody forces you to read it, we're sharing experiences.

The question is what forces you to read it if you don't share the same ears? It's like copying a dress from another person disregading the difference in body measurements... HRTF are very person-specific, they cannot be "shared"... This is the main challenge of binauaral technologies...

 

[leeperry]

coz as discussed in this thread, the whole point of head-fi is to find ppl who have more or less the same tastes/hearing as you, and take it from there. dononus and I often agree on many things, and he's released some settings that worked great for me and so did I.
 
head-fit is by far the best xfeed plugin I've found, Isone Pro sounds hollow and bloated to my ears...like some kind of DH.
 
another dirty xfeed I like is in ffdshow:

 

[ironmine]

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head-fit is by far the best xfeed plugin I've found, Isone Pro sounds hollow and bloated to my ears...like some kind of DH.  

 
But Isone Pro gives better out of head experience and sounds closer to speakers, while Head-Fit still gives the "headphone kind of sound", just an improved version of it (in my opinion).  I wonder if there are any techniques to combine the benefits of them both? Maybe adding some room reverberations after Head-Fit?...
 
It's a pity that big boys companies (like waves, sonalksis etc.) with big budgets for research don't have crossfeed plugins. Refined Audiometrics Laboratory did release their HDPHX (http://refinedaudiometrics.com/products-hdphx.shtml), but it is pitiful.

 

[leeperry]

yeah HDPHX is worthless to my ears, and I spent forever trying to make Isone Pro work for me...to no available. It always sounds like a crappy big reverb that colors the sound to death. I've tried more xfeed plugins that I could remember, 112db, VNP and some more I forgot about. head-fit is prolly a mix of inverted phase + delay of the opposite channel, that's all I need. Actually it's got some EQ on top, but yes you're right it colors the sound a bit but not nearly as much as Isone...It's not meant to be a room simulator, it's only supposed to make listening to headphones less fatiguing in the long run. The lower the jitter, the less my brain can stand dual mono...can't argue w/ him ^^

 

[donunus]

I'm spamming? I thought that was the purpose of this thread. To share settings so that others could try it and mod it or do whatever with it. I didn't know that a forum about crossfeed is not the proper place to talk about its settings.

 

[donunus]

Leeperry,
I love those new settings of yours by the way

 

[J-a-k-e]

Personally I quite like the different configurations that are being posted in this thread, as I'm not quite sure how to go about my own tweaking without making a mess of the sound. If there was a sort of step-by-step guide I'd be more inclined to follow that and play with different settings but since there's not I quite content to experiment with what's been posted.

 

[donunus]

Exactly thats what I thought which is why I like to share. What else is there to talk about in this thread anyway?
 
Oh Leeperry I just changed the ILF HF of your setting to -16 to get rid of some leaking highs towards the opposite ear. I think this does the trick. Now for some music listening

 

[J-a-k-e]

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Leeperry,
I love those new settings of yours by the way

Same here actually & unless you guys have a different view on this I've been finding over the last day that the crowd noise during a live recording is the best test of how far your headphones can go to produce a big and deep soundstage. I'm really noticing during the last minute of "Run Like Hell" off Pink Floyd - Pulse that after the fireworks the sound of the crowd to my ears is a more 3D and extends back a lot further.

 

[donunus]

Have you guys noticed that when you change the difference of the ms of the HF and LF that the phasing seems to be the thing thats changed?(I know leeperry noticed this already since he mentioned this above) Well I just discovered that if you turn up the sliders to a higher level but using the same difference in ms that the phasing remains the same but the crossfeed effect just gets more pronounced. Ex. from Leeperrys .27, .18 I derived .32, .23... a difference of .09 ms between the lows and the highs. The .32, .23 setting gives a little better fill though to my ears. I ended up with this. Sorry ironmine
 
 
-9.9
-16
1375
.32
.23

 

[ironmine]

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 If there was a sort of step-by-step guide I'd be more inclined to follow that and play with different settings but since there's not I quite content to experiment with what's been posted.

Jake, you are wrong! There is a step-by-step guide suggested by the author of Head-Fit:
 
www.ohl.to/about-audio/audio-softwares/head-fit