[clerkpalmer]

lol you have a good point!

Seriously, there is no place on the planet that covers tws like we do here.

 

[stacey]

we have 4000 pages of discussion going back to the Bragi Dash. We aren’t good enough?

I bought the Dash on kickstarter LOL. We have come a long way. But really this is one of the only audiophile centric TWS threads out there. Unless you can read Japanese or Mandarin well.

 

[clerkpalmer]

I bought the Dash on kickstarter LOL. We have come a long way. But really this is one of the only audiophile centric TWS threads out there. Unless you can read Japanese or Mandarin well.

Me too. Then I got impatient and grabbed a pre release version for like 400 on eBay. Truly magical at the time.

 

[Saraugie]

I bought the Dash on kickstarter LOL. We have come a long way. But really this is one of the only audiophile centric TWS threads out there.

Unless you can read Japanese or Mandarin well.

I do not, which is what got me in AVIOT trouble!!!

 

[Not so fat head]

Wow, early adopters

 

[stacey]

Me too. Then I got impatient and grabbed a pre release version for like 400 on eBay. Truly magical at the time.

They were way ahead of their time. It had a heartbeat sensor that I used pretty extensively on runs on base at the time…In 2016. There’s still not much out there that does that.

 

[erockg]

They were way ahead of their time. It had a heartbeat sensor that I used pretty extensively on runs on base at the time…In 2016. There’s still not much out there that does that.

100%. I truly wish they didn't sell off their hardware business. I bought every iteration and even had the Starkey ones made. Earin and Bragi were so awesome. Just wish Earin didn't change their form factor with that last version.

 

[clerkpalmer]

They were way ahead of their time. It had a heartbeat sensor that I used pretty extensively on runs on base at the time…In 2016. There’s still not much out there that does that.

Jabra did some cool tws with HR sensors. They were great. Funny that senn is bringing this back now.

 

[SynaestheticA]

Here's a big, huge, benefit of going BT TWS.....a $3,500 DAP...is not necessarily going to sound better than a $199. one, playing BT only. Think about it. Why have all that expensive hardware converting, sampling, and doing other magic, when the BT signal does not use it?

I genuinely think there is a market in the audiophiles space for an audiophile TWS DAP. There are ways to improve Bluetooth but no single phone (maybe the Asus) does everything they could.

That being said, another solution is an audio company making a phone. You guys see the Moondrop Phone - https://www.soundguys.com/moondrop-hi-fi-phone-109770/

Not expecting first iteration to be perfect but if it doesn't ONLY focus on wired playback and considers Bluetooth than it could make sense just as a DAP/TWS transmitter

 

[james444]

...a $3,500 DAP...is not necessarily going to sound better than a $199. one, playing BT only.

Pssst, the same applies to playing wired, but don't tell anyone.

 

[darveniza]

Seems like a solution to a problem that doesnt exist.

Not 100% sure, use them while doing some house chores and did not need to use the phone to move between music apps , also discovered that you can even have a SIM card installed, need to explore this.

Interesting that they were able to pack all of this into a small box, surprised that Ikko did

 

[clerkpalmer]

Not 100% sure, use them while doing some house chores and did not need to use the phone to move between music apps , also discovered that you can even have a SIM card installed, need to explore this.

Interesting that they were able to pack all of this into a small box, surprised that Ikko did

so it’s a phone? Not sure I see the advantage. Just me. It’s smaller i suppose.

 

[darveniza]

so it’s a phone? Not sure I see the advantage. Just me. It’s smaller i suppose.

Will keep testing , it does more than other TWS for $299

 

[clerkpalmer]

Will keep testing , it does more than other TWS for $299

Yeah don’t get me wrong, it’s cool. Just trying to understand the use case. If it’s that you don’t need your phone, that’s kinda cool but I don’t think I personally need that.

 

[BooleanBones]

They are also very comfortable but I will need to try some of my other tips since I did notice the seal breaking at times. I do find my Jabra Elite 10s to be more comfortable still (and is still one of my favorites as an all-rounder because of this) and I have not tried making a call yet on my AZ80s,.

My co-worker says they sounds as good on calls as my APP2s and Bose external speaker. I like that they have the tap to mute ability. Not sure if you landed on some tips, but I took the Spinfit W1s off my TZ-700s and they work/fit/sound very good on the AZ80s as well. I tried the Final Type-Es as well, but think the W1s sound better to me. Assuming you are doing the silicone thing I guess