Oct 1, 2022 at 4:14 AM Post #48,046 of 70,131
I asked about customisable controllers and the EQ-bug, but no luck in either question... :/

Otherwise I love the TWX9, but such a shame that only Technics and Sennheiser allows their customers to fully customize the controllers!
 

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Oct 1, 2022 at 4:41 AM Post #48,047 of 70,131
I personally like the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 3 for sports. The added fins makes sure it stays in my ears.

The Apple Airpods Pro 2 is quite nice too. But the fit is not as secure as the Sennheiser’s, so Sennheiser is still #1 for me.

Sony is crap though. These things fly out of my ears when I do some running.
Are you referring to the XM4s or XM3s ? I haven't tried the XM4s yet but the XM3s were absolutely terrible in terms of fit for me, even without moving, unless I rammed them deep in my ears and that gets old quickly !

Since I hate the "runners"s thud" I'd stuck to "open" designs like the Sabbat X12s or the Aftershockz for running but my X12s died recently so I tried running with the Bomaker SiFi II and while the thud is there it"s tolerable as it does cut out outside noise. How are the MTW3s in that respect ?

I've seen videos where it's claimed the Jaybirds Vistas and the Bose Sports Earbuds are the only "closed" TWS that don't have the "thud"...
 
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Oct 1, 2022 at 7:18 AM Post #48,048 of 70,131
I asked about customisable controllers and the EQ-bug, but no luck in either question... :/

Otherwise I love the TWX9, but such a shame that only Technics and Sennheiser allows their customers to fully customize the controllers!
As they said, eq lowering the volume is not a bug. I have seen this on many other products, including DAPs, when eq is enabled the volume level is decreased, annoying though. I haven't found a need to eq them yet.
 
Oct 1, 2022 at 8:01 AM Post #48,049 of 70,131
Are you referring to the XM4s or XM3s ? I haven't tried the XM4s yet but the XM3s were absolutely terrible in terms of fit for me, even without moving, unless I rammed them deep in my ears and that gets old quickly !

Since I hate the "runners"s thud" I'd stuck to "open" designs like the Sabbat X12s or the Aftershockz for running but my X12s died recently so I tried running with the Bomaker SiFi II and while the thud is there it"s tolerable as it does cut out outside noise. How are the MTW3s in that respect ?

I've seen videos where it's claimed the Jaybirds Vistas and the Bose Sports Earbuds are the only "closed" TWS that don't have the "thud"...
haven't tried the Vistas .. but as for the Bose Sports, I tried those over the summer and was not happy with the fit, somehow the QC1 buds had the better fit, maybe had to do with weight distribution .. the sports buds, being a bit lighter, seemed to be wiggling / swimming in my ears while running ... as for the thud, I do not consider the QC1 nor the sports buds as 'closed' as the stay hear tips are not being fully jammed in ... hence IMHO both of them have very low thud ...

Have you ever tried playing music that goes with your cadence? Does wonders for me .. helps with 180spm conditioning :D
 
Oct 1, 2022 at 8:28 AM Post #48,050 of 70,131
Yeah, when the thud matches the cadence it's less annoying ;-)
Like I wrote, I can deal with the "thud" of the SiFiII because they filter out a lot of the outside noise, including my shoes hitting the ground, you don't get that with the X12s. Even in the quiet environments where I usually run it's nice and of course it makes an even bigger difference if you're running in a noisy urban environment.
I think the SiFiII work well too because they fit really snuggly and as you wrote above, the "wiggling" (that can result in a "scratching" noise) is another annoyance on top of the thud. I get that with the QCII and the Earfun Air Pro 2 for instance.
I suppose I'll give Jaybird Vista 2 a try at some point ;-)
 
Oct 1, 2022 at 8:59 AM Post #48,051 of 70,131
I went for a test run with the QC2, and it stays in the ear without shifting. GBP2 was actually shifting because it would make rubbing microphonics which was annoying.

But, it's not all nice and dandy. It seems to be amplifying some kind of sound whenever I stomp or put my foot down while running. Ok, I can understand perhaps 'thud' or whatnot, but amplify the sound? Why? It happens when I shut the door fast and hard and it amplifies the sound.

I get the feeling the it might be the sound detector that lowers any strong ambient sounds. It's causing undesirable things! It has to be related to a mic, or a sensor.

Other than that, it's an engaging sound, but I find that it's not the best for Jazz genre. The cymbals, etc.. isn't as lively sounding as I like. The clank. But to be fair, you can have very highly emphasized treble that clanks well with metal sounds, which is to be expected. I wish there was more impact to such sounds in the highs, but without too much treble emphasis that would cause sibilence. I hate vocal that go tsss, chuuu, etc.. if you know what I mean.
 
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Oct 1, 2022 at 9:02 AM Post #48,052 of 70,131
What you're hearing (heard it too) is probably the fact that you can't turn off the mics for a true passive mode. It's hard to understand why Bose can't offer that basic option, when pretty much everyone else does.
 
Oct 1, 2022 at 9:03 AM Post #48,053 of 70,131
Correct me if I am wrong, but almost everyone places Bose at the top of the ANC food chain, but what else are they known for? I have been rather disappointed by sq in the over ears.
 
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Oct 1, 2022 at 9:51 AM Post #48,055 of 70,131
Yeah, apparently Sony have found a way on the XM4s to keep the mics on for ANC and cancel the inevitable wind noise amplification that comes with it (not tried it for myself but confirmed in posts here). It has to come at the expense of the efficiency of ANC though so the obvious and easy fix is to offer an "ANC Off" mode but incredibly Bose have failed to do that. It was bad enough not to offer that on the first generation QCI but on the second generation ? It would have to be a firmware fix too, not hardware so what's keeping them ?!
 
Oct 1, 2022 at 12:41 PM Post #48,056 of 70,131
So, something interesting I've not conciously or verbally recognized is the IEM/TWS's ability to express the environment effects that is in the original recording. What I mean is the reverberations, the direction of the sound, and all that information picked up by the microphone being expressed. This is what I mean by how the sound information is expressed spatially. Some do it much better than others, and a lot of them sounding flat spatially, and thus not so interesting.

I feel that Bose's sound actually stands out when it comes to doing this. Which is what I mean by realistic without the high resolution. Resolution doesn't mean realism, particularly in how the sound actually behaves. It sounds like the way the sound actually behave in space. I'm not sure how this is achieved. Is it by accident or intentional, or I just hear it this compared to another person. No idea, but I can sense the environmental intentions or the environment when I listen with the Bose. That's what so distinct about it's sound compared to other TWS.

In a way, this is what transparency is. It has not occurred to me over the years, but realism depends on how the sound interacts with the environment. That's what we hear in real life. Sound is bounced around with many reflections and enters our ears in various angles. Not in a vacuum.
 
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Oct 1, 2022 at 1:09 PM Post #48,057 of 70,131
Oppo enco X2.

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The specs, features and functions are very similar to the Huawei freebuds pro 2. The Oppo sounds more natural in the mids while the Huawei sounds extremely fast and a tad unnatural. The Oppo app is also less of a hassle to install since Huawei is banned from Google. The stem of the Oppo is also slimmer than the Huawei, and the controls are easier to operate on the Oppo. A firmware update adds LDAC support and I have no issues using it with LDAC on my Samsung phone. The tips of the Oppo are more conical in shape and the largest size is quite small, so people who require larger tips may find that they do not stay well in ears.
 
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Oct 1, 2022 at 2:24 PM Post #48,059 of 70,131
Oppo and QCY allow it too.
Oh great!

Im not a software developer, but if you can partially customize the controllers like you can on the TWX9 and others (like Sony) it shouldnt be too difficult to enable fully custom controllers... :/
 
Oct 1, 2022 at 3:13 PM Post #48,060 of 70,131
Oh great!

Im not a software developer, but if you can partially customize the controllers like you can on the TWX9 and others (like Sony) it shouldnt be too difficult to enable fully custom controllers... :/
Not a software developer either but I know some tech from my line of work, unfortunately some features that make their way to the app are hardware dependant and some chipsets don’t have certain features enabled.
 

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