erockg
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Nice, thanks! Just left the question.
Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
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Good on ya. I'm mildly curious about them, but willing to wait for more folks to adopt them and get the wrinkles ironed out before I purchase. Looks like a pretty solid pair from what I can see, but imagine a lot of people are going to have a problem with how large they feel in the ear. Insertion depth and technique is going to be everything with that pair.
Ironically, with the MTW2, that's pretty effortless. Wonder how Grell handled it here.
erockg
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Same here. I need to see how the masses feel. They look huge, but I'm curious too. I'll resist the urge for a bit. Plus, I have the Fokus out for delivery right now 
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My guess is that since SoundID is a 3rd party app firmware updates won't be available through the app.
So no differences in sound at all? Do these have in ear detection?Fiil T2 pro. Seems to have retained the t1 pro sound. ANC is more effective.
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Well I can't say if its the firmware update or just my brain getting burned in. But I am preferring the AZ60 over the AZ70. they both have their strengths and weaknesses and work better for certain music, but for overall general use the AZ60 sounds better with more genres. It just has a fuller sound. I have also basically stopped EQing them for the most part and just use their default signature.
Once you step away from the sound signature then the AZ60 just wins. They are smaller, more comfortable, have a better fit kit, offer LDAC, have multi-point, similar battery life, smaller case.
I love being able to use these simultaneously between my phone and computer. It has some small hiccups but more or less just works and works well. I will be working in an open space office occasionally and these will allow me to have meetings with minimal disruption to me and the people working around me.
Then when I don't need to connect to my computer I can switch to LDAC and get the best possible sound out of them and to me, while not quite to the level of a wired product they are narrowing that gap.
Out of curiosity what % are others setting the ANC to? I have mine set at 75% which works well in almost all environments including walking around outside. Still get a bit of wind but very minor and livable at that percentage.
for ambient mode I tweak more often as sometime I need the added clarity versus sound quality. BUt generally speaking 75% works best there as well as it reduces the hiss while still allowing me to be more aware of surroundings.
One thing I missed was the ability to toggle between ANC, ambient, and OFF from the IEM. So just looked in the settings and i just needed to enable the ability for off. So now these have the same settings as the AZ70 so can turn off ANC and Ambient for especially windy days when outside.
Once you step away from the sound signature then the AZ60 just wins. They are smaller, more comfortable, have a better fit kit, offer LDAC, have multi-point, similar battery life, smaller case.
I love being able to use these simultaneously between my phone and computer. It has some small hiccups but more or less just works and works well. I will be working in an open space office occasionally and these will allow me to have meetings with minimal disruption to me and the people working around me.
Then when I don't need to connect to my computer I can switch to LDAC and get the best possible sound out of them and to me, while not quite to the level of a wired product they are narrowing that gap.
Out of curiosity what % are others setting the ANC to? I have mine set at 75% which works well in almost all environments including walking around outside. Still get a bit of wind but very minor and livable at that percentage.
for ambient mode I tweak more often as sometime I need the added clarity versus sound quality. BUt generally speaking 75% works best there as well as it reduces the hiss while still allowing me to be more aware of surroundings.
One thing I missed was the ability to toggle between ANC, ambient, and OFF from the IEM. So just looked in the settings and i just needed to enable the ability for off. So now these have the same settings as the AZ70 so can turn off ANC and Ambient for especially windy days when outside.
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If I’m not mistaken, the Drop Panda will be doing firmware updates through SoundID. Or at least that’s what Drop said (an initial firmware update through the PC, then the rest over air using SoundID).
I will never understand the point of having the stem tbh. It's just not necessary! Makes it bigger and stand out. Not fun to use while lying down. It looks bit ugly too but that's besides the point.Same here. I need to see how the masses feel. They look huge, but I'm curious too. I'll resist the urge for a bit. Plus, I have the Fokus out for delivery right now
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Mic/call quality. Stem microphones like the APPs tend to perform better.
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Working away listening to tunes on my phone, someone starts to call me from teams on my PC, music stops, I answer the phone (have to try using the answer function on the TWS next time). Once the team's call is over I hang up and my music immediately starts playing from my phone...
How can it get any better than that!
How can it get any better than that!
It's a microphone quality thing. One of the reasons the WH3 perform as well as they do on calls imo
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Working away listening to tunes on my phone, someone starts to call me from teams on my PC, music stops, I answer the phone (have to try using the answer function on the TWS next time). Once the team's call is over I hang up and my music immediately starts playing from my phone...
How can it get any better than that!
Multi-point, when implemented well, is absolutely amazing. I know I'm a broken record on this topic, but fast/quick pairing, multi-point, etc. are all such massive QoL improvements for anyone with more than one device (which is probably most people).
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Damn. Say I'm good with waiting and the AT is my favorite so far but there is always some kryptonite that you might not be able to resist and this pops up in about a week...
https://www-phileweb-com.translate....3.html?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US
Of course has a version of the new A series...
And the Victor and AT have been two of the best sound so far. CKS50TW first, N6 Pro 2 second and Victor third. The two share the extra chambers and trying to more air and control pressure as in a normal earphone and that has paid off. Here they are trying to do the same and be more like like the wired earphones.
One I put some stock in to be among the best sounding and well tuned so quite tempting.
https://www-phileweb-com.translate....3.html?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US
Of course has a version of the new A series...
And the Victor and AT have been two of the best sound so far. CKS50TW first, N6 Pro 2 second and Victor third. The two share the extra chambers and trying to more air and control pressure as in a normal earphone and that has paid off. Here they are trying to do the same and be more like like the wired earphones.
One I put some stock in to be among the best sounding and well tuned so quite tempting.
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erockg
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1000% agree. They better be special if that stem is there.
erockg
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That said, I just used my Jabra Elite Active 7s on a two hour phone call (lucky me) and every said I sounded flawless. No stem. But it was indoors.
